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      02-26-2020, 10:07 AM   #11683
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Put on OEM pads and rotors last night. I believe the fluid was topped off when the pads were pretty worn out so I ended up spitting fluid out the reservoir and went all over the place when I pushed the pistons all the way back. Had to take half the car apart to clean everything.

Pretty easy job but when I'm up to speed and hit the brakes I hear a whirling type sound. Sort of like a jet engine shutting down as I slow down. It made the sound even before I bed them in. No pulling or vibration or anything out of the normal. Hoping it will go away in time.
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^ Doubt it will, you probably got fluid on the vacuum sensor and fried it. Not the end of the world but not the cheapest/easiest fix either.
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^ Doubt it will, you probably got fluid on the vacuum sensor and fried it. Not the end of the world but not the cheapest/easiest fix either.
Unfortunately highly likely. Just a few drips on the sensor and it is fried. Eventually limp mode will pop up. 27e4 code.

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Shuffled vehicles around a bit to get my E92 out of storage and in for its annual service—on the drive to the dealership finally crested 15k miles. The loaner vehicle was a fun experience, being fitted with an X3M Competition. Crazy torque available at an instant and almost entirely throughout the operating RPM range. The new S powerplant is certainly a fun piece of kit with an exhaust note that isn't offensive (looking at you, S55.) I'm afraid I may be hitting an inflection point with technology however as I was far too distracted by all the buttons in the new vehicle. Many paddles on the steering wheel and a center console surrounded by controls to adjust power, steering, suspension, transmission, exhaust, etc. While fun to configure, it was/is too much for my taste. Also noted how large the new X3 is when driving alongside the past-generation X5!
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^ Doubt it will, you probably got fluid on the vacuum sensor and fried it. Not the end of the world but not the cheapest/easiest fix either.
yup, its on order. what a shit design.
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Shuffled vehicles around a bit to get my E92 out of storage and in for its annual service—on the drive to the dealership finally crested 15k miles. The loaner vehicle was a fun experience, being fitted with an X3M Competition. Crazy torque available at an instant and almost entirely throughout the operating RPM range. The new S powerplant is certainly a fun piece of kit with an exhaust note that isn't offensive (looking at you, S55.) I'm afraid I may be hitting an inflection point with technology however as I was far too distracted by all the buttons in the new vehicle. Many paddles on the steering wheel and a center console surrounded by controls to adjust power, steering, suspension, transmission, exhaust, etc. While fun to configure, it was/is too much for my taste. Also noted how large the new X3 is when driving alongside the past-generation X5!
Both the S65 and S58 are fantastic engines!!
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Both the S65 and S58 are fantastic engines!!
Not trying to start an "E9x m3 > every M3 after that" but is the S58's exhaust sound an improvement to the S55?
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Both the S65 and S58 are fantastic engines!!
Not trying to start an "E9x m3 > every M3 after that" but is the S58's exhaust sound an improvement to the S55?
From my 48-hours exposure in an X3M, absolutely, S58 sounds leaps better than S55. While similar in some sense, the S58 lacks the lawnmower characteristics that I often use to describe the S55.
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From my 48-hours exposure in an X3M, absolutely, S58 sounds leaps better than S55. While similar in some sense, the S58 lacks the lawnmower characteristics that I often use to describe the S55.
The next gen M3/4 with the S58 will be a 3 sec. 0-60 monster!!
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^ I bet with AWD + tune it could be!
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yup, its on order. what a shit design.
Yup. First time I swapped pads on mine for the track this happened. I didn't know there was a critical sensor directly under the reservoir at the time so I cleaned up what I could see and went on with my life...Several weeks later my sensor went out at the track and some forum searching led me to this realization. Now I keep the reservoir level much lower.

For the diy, many will say it took hours but if you use the simple tools I used to replace the sensor (my post in the thread linked above lists them), you can get it done in 15min. If small hands maybe less.
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^ I bet with AWD + tune it could be!
X3MC's with the same S58 are running 3.3-3.4 0-60, stock!! The M3/4 with AWD and 500+ lbs. lighter, easily 3 flat. Tuned, we'll see 2.8-2.9 0-60's from the next gen M3's.
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yup, its on order. what a shit design.
Yup. First time I swapped pads on mine for the track this happened. I didn't know there was a critical sensor directly under the reservoir at the time so I cleaned up what I could see and went on with my life...Several weeks later my sensor went out at the track and some forum searching led me to this realization. Now I keep the reservoir level much lower.

For the diy, many will say it took hours but if you use the simple tools I used to replace the sensor (my post in the thread linked above lists them), you can get it done in 15min. If small hands maybe less.
I had multiple failures on this job and a bunch of signs that should've hit a little harder. I was rushing and skipping things I'd normally do. I almost bed them in with the lug screws only hand tight. Then I went to torque them and realized when the car was rolling away that I had already removed the wheel chalks. I would much rather be in this situation then my car rolling out the garage smashing my wife's car or the neighbors house.

Parts are being overnighted from FCP. I'm not to concerned about the removal and replacement. I had that area torn apart last night to clean up the mess and it didn't seem to bad.

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      02-26-2020, 08:45 PM   #11696
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Put on OEM pads and rotors last night. I believe the fluid was topped off when the pads were pretty worn out so I ended up spitting fluid out the reservoir and went all over the place when I pushed the pistons all the way back. Had to take half the car apart to clean everything.

Pretty easy job but when I'm up to speed and hit the brakes I hear a whirling type sound. Sort of like a jet engine shutting down as I slow down. It made the sound even before I bed them in. No pulling or vibration or anything out of the normal. Hoping it will go away in time.
Ouch, sounds like Brake Vacuum sensor is damage from brake fluid,....parts is like $135ish plus labor. Gluck

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i was cruising at 83-85 mph on the freeway late at night
i got paced by a new looking Camaro that had pulled up alongside me 2 lanes away for a few seconds
then the Camaro gunned it and took off

i guess he wanted to play but i'm too old to be street racing
but i did enjoy hearing the car take off
sounded mean
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Shuffled vehicles around a bit to get my E92 out of storage and in for its annual service—on the drive to the dealership finally crested 15k miles. The loaner vehicle was a fun experience, being fitted with an X3M Competition.
I drove one of those during the MTown Tour, and I've never gotten that thing out of my head, even though I drove an M5C and M850 the same day. When the time comes and I find a CPO X3MC in the right color, no sunroof, and the top sound system, the X2 will get traded in for that ride.

After 6 BMWs most dealers kiss my butt when I get loaners, but they still generally stick to the lateral loaner or one step down, ie I drop the M3 get an M3, or drop my X2 and I get an X1. I'd really like to know how you got the X3MC out of them.
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^ Doubt it will, you probably got fluid on the vacuum sensor and fried it. Not the end of the world but not the cheapest/easiest fix either.
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Unfortunately highly likely. Just a few drips on the sensor and it is fried. Eventually limp mode will pop up. 27e4 code.

In case you need it -
https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1633832
where is the vacuum sensor located?
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Been working 8 days in a row. 10hr shifts.

Brakes are squealing again. Kinda awkward when you're downtown and it happens but oh well. I'm sure it's probably the pads or something.
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Shuffled vehicles around a bit to get my E92 out of storage and in for its annual service—on the drive to the dealership finally crested 15k miles. The loaner vehicle was a fun experience, being fitted with an X3M Competition.
I drove one of those during the MTown Tour, and I've never gotten that thing out of my head, even though I drove an M5C and M850 the same day. When the time comes and I find a CPO X3MC in the right color, no sunroof, and the top sound system, the X2 will get traded in for that ride.

After 6 BMWs most dealers kiss my butt when I get loaners, but they still generally stick to the lateral loaner or one step down, ie I drop the M3 get an M3, or drop my X2 and I get an X1. I'd really like to know how you got the X3MC out of them.
For my m2 I get an x1, x2, or 330i. I've hated all of them.
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Used the m3 to move my GF and her cat in with me. I don't think the cat liked the V8.
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^ Doubt it will, you probably got fluid on the vacuum sensor and fried it. Not the end of the world but not the cheapest/easiest fix either.
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Unfortunately highly likely. Just a few drips on the sensor and it is fried. Eventually limp mode will pop up. 27e4 code.

In case you need it -
https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1633832
where is the vacuum sensor located?
Buried directly below the front of the master cylinder.
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