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      06-16-2010, 01:10 PM   #23
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      07-01-2010, 03:48 PM   #24
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what about the KW competition 2way (about same price as the clubsport) and the competition 3way (double the price roughly)
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      11-08-2010, 09:39 AM   #25
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Great info. Thanks!
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      12-16-2010, 07:58 PM   #26
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So TEIN didn't make a kit for the E9X eh?
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Thanks for the info. Interesting how the PSS10s are the only ones who have similar spring rates front and rear.
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      02-10-2011, 04:54 PM   #28
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Great overview,

some questions:
- what is the use/relevance of the wheel rate as opposed to the spring rate?

- I'm used to spring rates in SI (Systeme Internationale) and they are defined as force / distance: [Newton / meter, N/m]. With Lb being mass and not force, how do the mentioned rates mentioned here translate to SI-units?

SI spring rate value = Imperial Spring Rate value *2.2046 (for Lbs-> Kg) *9.8 (for mass->force) * 0.0254 (for 1/inch -> 1/meter) any thoughts?

- Is there any comparative info on the (minimum e/o maximum) damper rates of these systems available? Both SI or imperial values are welcomed? SI -unit is force * time / distance: [Newton * second / meter, Ns/m]
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      03-10-2011, 12:46 AM   #29
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Late reply but here it is anyway.

Wheel rate is what the car actually experiences due to leverage. Just like a car jack, it is much easier (less force) to jack up the car when you have a longer handle. Same principle applies.

lb here is pound-force. Just google xx inch per pound to newton per mm.
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      08-04-2011, 07:08 PM   #30
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So many to choose from. I am gathering if I want to retain my EDC functionality, springs are the way to go.... Or just say screw it, and get a nice set of COs......
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      08-14-2012, 10:49 AM   #31
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TC Kline Racing offers a Single Adjustable and a Double Adjustable suspension...

http://www.tcklineracing.com/webdocs...Details159.cfm
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which one of these can be the same height as stock?

i would like the car to be able to be stock height when i leave my house then when i show up on track or at a meet i can lower it then. is there one that suits my needs?
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TC Kline Racing offers a Single Adjustable and a Double Adjustable suspension...

http://www.tcklineracing.com/webdocs...Details159.cfm
E9X M3 TC Kline S/A True Match Coilover Kit



TC KLINE RACING E9X M3 S/A TRUE MATCH COILOVER SUSPENSION - With this kit, you can adjust rebound externally front and rear plus have the added benefits of ride height adjustability (up to two inches). The True Match System includes proprietary valved KONI single rebound adjustable shocks and our super trick VVS alloy springs. Unlike other coilover systems, our rebound adjusters and wide range of spring rates enable a true match to your driving needs and preferences. Encompassing both street comfort and track performance, this kit is unsurpassed in its class.

This suspension kit includes the following components:

(1) 8741-1484LSPTC - TC Kline/Koni Left Front Coilover Strut
(1) 8741-1484RSPTC - TC Kline/Koni Right Front Coilover Strut
(2) TCKFSXXX - TC Kline VVS Alloy Front Springs
(2) 8241-1200Sport - TC Kline/Koni Rear externally adjustable shocks
(2) TCKRSXXX.250.10 - TC Kline VVS Alloy Rear Springs
(1) TCKRSA - TC Kline Rear Ride Height Adjusters (pair)
(2) TCKE90RCR - Delrin Centering Ring for rear ride height adjuster
(2) 12mm shock sleeves for upper mounts
(1) E9X M3/1M Shock kit
(2) Koni Spanner Wrenches
(2) Koni Rebound Adjuster Knobs

*Camber plates are not included with the kit but are highly encouraged to achieve less understeer.

**We recommend 350#-400# front springs and 600# rear springs for daily driven cars.

Please feel free to call us with questions at 614.771.7744

TCKR Smart Design D/A Coilover System



Proven on the street and track, this system is unmatched by any other system on the market. TC Kline’s unique Smart Shock technology mated with our VVS alloy springs (see springs) make this ride height adjustable kit the most versatile available. Incorporating separate external compression and rebound adjusters, the shocks can be dialed from street comfort to a full race setup in minutes.


These features combined with our complete selection of VVS alloy spring rates make this kit the uncompromising choice for both street comfort and track performance. The Smart Design System is perfect for driving school enthusiasts, autocrossers, club racers, and serious pro racers alike.

This kit includes the following:

(1) 8711-1125LSPTC - TC Kline Racing / Koni Left front strut
(1) 8711-1125RSPTC - TC Kline Racing / Koni Right front strut
(2) TCKFSXXX - Pair of front springs in your choice of spring rate
(1) TCKE9XShockkit - Spacer sleeves for the Struts and Shocks
(1) 8242-1009LSPTC - TC Kline Racing / Koni Left rear shock
(1) 8242-1009RSPTC - TC Kline Racing / Koni Right rear shock
(2) TCKRSXXX.250.10 - Pair of rear springs in your choice of spring rate
(2) TCKE9XDCR - Delrin centering ring for rear height adjusters
(1) TCKRSA - Rear ride height adjusters
(2) Koni Spanner Wrenchs
(2) Koni rebound adjuster knobs

*Camber plates are not supplied with the kit. Camber plates are needed in order to use this suspension kit.

*TC Kline Racing camber/caster plates are available for $495.00.

Please feel free to call us with any questions at 614.771.7744
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      11-01-2012, 04:05 PM   #34
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why do most coilover allow more drop on the front than the rear. wouldn't it better for handling to drop like 1" all around than say 1.5 front/1rear?
This is actually incorrect. Its actually the exact opposite. Most can lower much more in the rear.
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      12-31-2012, 11:56 AM   #36
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Are there other spring rates for different option packages (say EDC vs non EDC) or E90 vs E92?
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      12-31-2012, 12:28 PM   #37
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should add when info found:


D2 Coilovers= upper pillow ball mounts, 32 way adjustable w/ camber adjustment

HKS Coilovers

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Dinan Racing Coil-Over Suspension System (EDC & Non-EDC versions)

Dinan Racing Coil-Over Suspension System
EDC: http://www.dinancars.com/shop/R190-9...-EDC-Only.aspx
Non-EDC: http://www.dinancars.com/shop/R190-9...-EDC-Only.aspx
$2,499.00
  • Height Adjustable: ?
  • Spring Rates: ?F/?R
  • Wheel Rates: ?F/?R
  • Compression and Rebound: ?
  • Camber plates adjustment: -1.2 to -3.2 degrees
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      06-14-2013, 11:21 PM   #39
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How about Megan and BC?
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      04-23-2014, 10:44 AM   #40
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RZM3, I noticed you are missing the Nitron coilovers in this list. I picked up their 3-way adjustable a few months back and although its not yet installed on the car I can either send you the pics to upload or I can upload them in here myself? LMK!
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      04-28-2014, 04:45 AM   #41
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Also, there are the following options:

JRZ RS1, RS, and RS Pro

Ohlins R&T

Motion Control Suspensions 1WNR, 2WNR, 2WRR

Moton "Motorsport" 2-way remote reservoir

Except for the Ohlins R&T, all other dampers use springs for your specific application (e.g., street-only, strret-track or track-only)
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      05-28-2014, 02:49 PM   #42
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I did't see the info about some of it that work with EDC without emulation or delete. That keep edc original.
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I did't see the info about some of it that work with EDC without emulation or delete. That keep edc original.
I am still waiting on this.
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Great post thanks! What options are there for good coils under the $2k mark?
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