BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > BIMMERPOST Universal Forums > Off-Topic Discussions Board
 
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      08-26-2011, 06:05 AM   #1
SpmnE9zero
DENY THE WORLD THAT SURROUNDS YOU
SpmnE9zero's Avatar
United_States
505
Rep
35,580
Posts

Drives: JB 33ZERO
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: City of Champions

iTrader: (14)

Garage List
2006 330xi  [0.00]
What do you have - Garage Flooring

I am in the process of building a new home and before a single car touches the concrete surface in the garage I want to get the flooring figured out.

I figure if I do it before we move in it will provide a better surface in case I decide to go Epoxy and it will have a better survival rate, as oil and brake fluid will not allow the epoxy to cure properly.

I am really torn as I dont ever want to do it again, so I am wondering if I should go plastic tiles that clip together.

Anyone with good solid advice please chime in.

Also if I do the epoxy covering, I want a very dull (no sheen) appearance with a very rough surface (skid resistance). I saw this once, almost like it had something mixed in with it. I loved it, but can not seem to find it anywhere. Doesnt matter if it has color chips in it or not.
__________________
Eurocharged V5 | ROW's / CC Delete | K&N's | H&R Springs | Single Fin G.B. Grill | Mode Carbon Diffuser | JBSpeed CF Spoiler |
Arkym Style CF Splitter | CF Mirror Caps | 5% Tints | 12mm Spacers |
Appreciate 0
      08-26-2011, 07:09 AM   #2
Quick6EF
Lieutenant
Quick6EF's Avatar
84
Rep
489
Posts

Drives: E92 Space Gray
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Boston

iTrader: (0)

In before BTM.


OP check 6sppedonline's garage sub-forum for some rediculous setups
__________________
Appreciate 0
      08-26-2011, 07:24 AM   #3
Rotorocious
Lieutenant Colonel
Rotorocious's Avatar
103
Rep
1,520
Posts

Drives: 335xi
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Colorado

iTrader: (3)

Almost all the epoxy coatings from homedepot/lowes have a skid resistant power you throw in while mixing. Basically just little beads. They have a matte grey type color also.

I've used the race deck plastic tiles before alot on other applications. They suck if you are always moving them around. Also you cannot turn your wheel alot while on them and not moving or else they will all come unclipped and you'll have a fun time putting them back together.
Appreciate 0
      08-26-2011, 08:17 AM   #4
SpmnE9zero
DENY THE WORLD THAT SURROUNDS YOU
SpmnE9zero's Avatar
United_States
505
Rep
35,580
Posts

Drives: JB 33ZERO
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: City of Champions

iTrader: (14)

Garage List
2006 330xi  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rotorocious View Post
Almost all the epoxy coatings from homedepot/lowes have a skid resistant power you throw in while mixing. Basically just little beads. They have a matte grey type color also.

I've used the race deck plastic tiles before alot on other applications. They suck if you are always moving them around. Also you cannot turn your wheel alot while on them and not moving or else they will all come unclipped and you'll have a fun time putting them back together.
Thanks for your insight!
I am thinking I may go the route of the home depot epoxy. I have read great reviews on it!
__________________
Eurocharged V5 | ROW's / CC Delete | K&N's | H&R Springs | Single Fin G.B. Grill | Mode Carbon Diffuser | JBSpeed CF Spoiler |
Arkym Style CF Splitter | CF Mirror Caps | 5% Tints | 12mm Spacers |
Appreciate 0
      08-30-2011, 07:46 AM   #5
Rotorocious
Lieutenant Colonel
Rotorocious's Avatar
103
Rep
1,520
Posts

Drives: 335xi
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Colorado

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpmnE9zero View Post
Thanks for your insight!
I am thinking I may go the route of the home depot epoxy. I have read great reviews on it!
I've used the Behr kit there and topped it off with a clear coating using Quikrete (behr didnt have a clear)
Appreciate 0
      08-30-2011, 09:08 AM   #6
BTM
Banned
United_States
479
Rep
10,309
Posts

Drives: A///MERICAN!!!
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: A///MERICA!!!

iTrader: (11)

Garage List
1st things first, if at all possible (ie, the concrete hasn't been poured yet) you're absolutely gonna want a vapor barrier everywhere you plan on having any sort of coating. It's a simple plastic layer between the earth and the concrete, which prevents water from being drawn up and becoming trapped between the porous concrete and non-porous coating, which can cause bubbles and eventual cracks in the finish.

Second, get it done professionally. Professionals have the variety of surfaces and the tooling & expertise to grind, mix, and apply it properly. The DIY kits have somewhat of a reputation for inconsistency in finish, and are not as durable. Not to mention, the chemicals used in commercial grade flooring are some of the nastiest around. Additionally, professional grade coatings have a longer life, and given you have a vapor barrier, are often warrantied/guaranteed by the installer for 10 or more years. Without the barrier, you might be looking at a 1 or 2 year guarantee.

My dad just went through this decision making process with me about 2 months ago, so if you have any more specific questions, feel free to ask.

Edit, from the post pics of your garage thread, how the finish turned out: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...66&postcount=6

It is not as dull nor gritty as you mention you would prefer, but like I said before, the contractor has tons of samples to choose from.

Last edited by BTM; 08-30-2011 at 09:23 AM..
Appreciate 0
      08-30-2011, 09:32 AM   #7
Express
Major General
Express's Avatar
Israel
366
Rep
8,693
Posts

Drives: 06 330i
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: The Promise Land

iTrader: (17)

Garage List
2006 BMW 330i  [8.30]
polished concrete. thanks for the idea, home depot.
Appreciate 0
      08-30-2011, 09:42 AM   #8
BTM
Banned
United_States
479
Rep
10,309
Posts

Drives: A///MERICAN!!!
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: A///MERICA!!!

iTrader: (11)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by express705 View Post
polished concrete. thanks for the idea, home depot.
Concrete is fine, but certainly has its disadvantages for someone who spends time in their garage, or has it climate controlled. It will absorb fluids and stain (which can actually be a desirable trait if you see snow, as an epoxy surface will not absorb any melting snow/ice, and no matter how gritty, can become slippery - a cheap runner carpet is a popular winter solution for a slippery surface), is cold and uncomfortable to lay on, is difficult to clean, and is certainly a huge point of inefficiency if your garage is heated. It's certainly a durable surface, and perfectly adequate for what many use their garage for, but there is always room for improvement.
Appreciate 0
      08-30-2011, 11:17 AM   #9
Express
Major General
Express's Avatar
Israel
366
Rep
8,693
Posts

Drives: 06 330i
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: The Promise Land

iTrader: (17)

Garage List
2006 BMW 330i  [8.30]
thank you home improvement expert.
Appreciate 0
      11-17-2011, 06:48 AM   #10
SpmnE9zero
DENY THE WORLD THAT SURROUNDS YOU
SpmnE9zero's Avatar
United_States
505
Rep
35,580
Posts

Drives: JB 33ZERO
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: City of Champions

iTrader: (14)

Garage List
2006 330xi  [0.00]
Some great advice in here!!! Thanks guys!
__________________
Eurocharged V5 | ROW's / CC Delete | K&N's | H&R Springs | Single Fin G.B. Grill | Mode Carbon Diffuser | JBSpeed CF Spoiler |
Arkym Style CF Splitter | CF Mirror Caps | 5% Tints | 12mm Spacers |
Appreciate 0
      11-17-2011, 07:26 AM   #11
tilua
Private
19
Rep
97
Posts

Drives: 2008 335i convertible
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Houston

iTrader: (0)

If you're going with the epoxy route make sure you get the 2 part mixing kind, which is the glossy one and much more durable, and not the single can premixed ( dull surface type). I had painted my garage with the premixed epoxy and they're not durable at all. I'm actually Planning to repaint with 2 part epoxy in the next couple weeks
Appreciate 0
      11-18-2011, 01:50 PM   #12
Romeo21779
New Member
0
Rep
7
Posts

Drives: Acura RSX
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: MI

iTrader: (0)

This is the stuff we have in our garage:
http://protective.sherwin-williams.c...3Aproduct-6872

We had the home depot epoxy and that chipped in about 2 months. We've had this stuff in our garage for the past 5 years now and it hasn't chipped at all. We do all of our work on our cars and it has seen its fair share of spills like oil, brake fluid, etc. Still in perfect condition.

Pretty good at taking impacts as well. Changed the tranny in our jeep in the garage, not a single mark left behind from the jacks or the stands.

Rexthane does take some prep work though. You need to go over the floor with the grinder or, preferably, have it shot blasted before application.

Hope that helps.

::EDIT:: Make sure you have a good respirator if you're doing this yourself, the fumes from rexthane are terrible.
Appreciate 0
      11-18-2011, 02:33 PM   #13
SpmnE9zero
DENY THE WORLD THAT SURROUNDS YOU
SpmnE9zero's Avatar
United_States
505
Rep
35,580
Posts

Drives: JB 33ZERO
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: City of Champions

iTrader: (14)

Garage List
2006 330xi  [0.00]
Thanks guys.
Looks like a job for the pros, if this stuff peeled after all that work I would be pissed off! :/
__________________
Eurocharged V5 | ROW's / CC Delete | K&N's | H&R Springs | Single Fin G.B. Grill | Mode Carbon Diffuser | JBSpeed CF Spoiler |
Arkym Style CF Splitter | CF Mirror Caps | 5% Tints | 12mm Spacers |
Appreciate 0
      11-18-2011, 02:39 PM   #14
yakev724
Brigadier General
yakev724's Avatar
229
Rep
3,561
Posts

Drives: 15 S3
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: NYC

iTrader: (49)

exactly the type of setup I'm hoping for in a future home--looks perfect.
Appreciate 0
      11-18-2011, 02:58 PM   #15
BTM
Banned
United_States
479
Rep
10,309
Posts

Drives: A///MERICAN!!!
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: A///MERICA!!!

iTrader: (11)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Romeo21779 View Post

Pretty good at taking impacts as well. Changed the tranny in our jeep in the garage, not a single mark left behind from the jacks or the stands.
To clarify, this is a constant load rather than an impact. An impact is a quick & concentrated application of force, for example if you were to drop a jack stand. Nothing is impervious to damage from an impact, but keeping in mind it is a garage, it's not going to look perfect, nor should it, especially if you're using it. Glad you're happy with the product and results though.

The type of flooring you go with should stem with what you plan on using the garage for, and weighing the costs/benefits. What kind of work will it see? Basic DIY stuff, heavier DIYing (welding, etc), or do you want a space that simply looks good to park your cars in? Is your garage climate controlled, or do you plan on climate control in the future? Each has their advantages and disadvantages, and pinpointing your main use of the space will go a long way in satisfying your expectations.

A recent issue of Classic Motorsports (had a blue porsche on the cover) had a good summary of the pros and cons of all the different flooring methods. I'm not sure if I still have it, if I do I'll scan the page.
Appreciate 0
      11-18-2011, 04:31 PM   #16
Mr. ///M3 RD
Happy Camper
Mr. ///M3 RD's Avatar
Canada
612
Rep
7,869
Posts

Drives: C63 AMG & 280 SL on Weekends :
Join Date: May 2010
Location: GTA, Ontario - Canada

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpmnE9zero View Post
I am in the process of building a new home and before a single car touches the concrete surface in the garage I want to get the flooring figured out.

I figure if I do it before we move in it will provide a better surface in case I decide to go Epoxy and it will have a better survival rate, as oil and brake fluid will not allow the epoxy to cure properly.

I am really torn as I dont ever want to do it again, so I am wondering if I should go plastic tiles that clip together.

Anyone with good solid advice please chime in.

Also if I do the epoxy covering, I want a very dull (no sheen) appearance with a very rough surface (skid resistance). I saw this once, almost like it had something mixed in with it. I loved it, but can not seem to find it anywhere. Doesnt matter if it has color chips in it or not.
I got mine from COSTCO .... pic in my MB C350 MATIC garage
__________________
Cheers, Rolf-Dieter

Life will take us to some interesting places, fortunately The ///M3 will too with a many of us know this very well, now my C6.3 AMG with 487 HP does it too
---> Click here for some good stuff I found
Appreciate 0
      11-20-2011, 08:08 PM   #17
kashrahman
New Member
0
Rep
7
Posts

Drives: 09 E93
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: indiana

iTrader: (0)

i've done home depot kit and next house done professionally. get a professional. regardless, prep is key. you can either acid etch or grind the surface before the paint. have the professional do the grind. good prep means the paint will stick better and last longer.

home depot kit, no prep, done on new concrete -- started peeling within a year.

professional job -- 3 years now, no chips, no peels, easy to clean, looks just like new.

just my .02 . . .

when new:



and last halloween . . .
Appreciate 0
      11-20-2011, 08:21 PM   #18
immiketoo
Colonel
immiketoo's Avatar
297
Rep
2,874
Posts

Drives: Smoothly
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Chicago Burbs

iTrader: (0)

Mine's bone stock. I hate it but whatever.
__________________

Quote:
Originally Posted by double eagle View Post
Thickness feels good to me and my hands aren't that big.
Appreciate 0
      11-21-2011, 05:13 PM   #19
Romeo21779
New Member
0
Rep
7
Posts

Drives: Acura RSX
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: MI

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by BTM View Post
To clarify, this is a constant load rather than an impact. An impact is a quick & concentrated application of force, for example if you were to drop a jack stand. Nothing is impervious to damage from an impact, but keeping in mind it is a garage, it's not going to look perfect, nor should it, especially if you're using it. Glad you're happy with the product and results though.

The type of flooring you go with should stem with what you plan on using the garage for, and weighing the costs/benefits. What kind of work will it see? Basic DIY stuff, heavier DIYing (welding, etc), or do you want a space that simply looks good to park your cars in? Is your garage climate controlled, or do you plan on climate control in the future? Each has their advantages and disadvantages, and pinpointing your main use of the space will go a long way in satisfying your expectations.

A recent issue of Classic Motorsports (had a blue porsche on the cover) had a good summary of the pros and cons of all the different flooring methods. I'm not sure if I still have it, if I do I'll scan the page.
Sorry, typed out my response pretty quickly.

But yes, heavy things have hit the finish without chipping it.

Used three coats plus an anti-slip addition (basically sand). Directions really need to followed for it to hold up well, but that can be said about all finishes. Like all paint, it's all about the prep.
Appreciate 0
      11-24-2011, 05:00 PM   #20
OC Guy
General
OC Guy's Avatar
United_States
530
Rep
18,123
Posts

Drives: AW 335D E90
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Irvine/Aliso Viejo, CA

iTrader: (9)

Garage List
2007 335i  [0.00]
How much is a decent quote for a professional job? Basic coating, old garage from 1998. Not climate controlled.
__________________

Current: 2010 Alpine White 335D LCI l 19" BBS LMs l KW V2 Coilovers l BMW Performance Grilles l MSport Front/Rear l Karbonwerke Trunk l F1 Pinnacle Tint 35% Former: E92 Space Grey 335i Latest pics
Appreciate 0
      11-24-2011, 06:08 PM   #21
The1
Major General
Canada
76
Rep
5,114
Posts

Drives: white 135
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: KW ontario/vancouver temporarily

iTrader: (0)

my old man went ahead and got tiles that have the colour pigment all the way through the tiles as well as a non slip surface. Then painted the walls a similar colour, then hung 2 chandeliers and mounted a bunch of posters.

he went for the pigment all the way through so if there are any chips or cracks, they won't show, and the tiles he got are extra durable.

plain and simple, but having a finished garage gives you a reason to keep it clean.
Appreciate 0
      11-24-2011, 11:17 PM   #22
mact3333
Captain
mact3333's Avatar
United_States
121
Rep
876
Posts

Drives: 16' YMB/Blk F82
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Portland Area

iTrader: (1)

tiles are abit noisy but function well.


Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:07 PM.




m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST