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      12-20-2024, 06:43 AM   #1
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Hello fellow E92 owners, making my first post in a long time today. I’m currently the original owner of a 2008 DCT Silverstone exterior on Black Novillo extended leather E92 M3. The car currently has 62.5k miles and is mostly used as a weekend car (I occasionally still daily drive it though). Recently, I’ve been thinking about selling the car as it’s requiring almost $20k worth of maintenance (partly due to the high costs of parts in my country), which I’ve already done $10k of (engine mounts, leaking rocker cover, faulty head unit, new undertrays etc.). The car is unmodified and in relatively good condition (the edges of both doors are chipped, lower front apron has been scratched pretty badly, headliner is sagging, and rear storage tray cover is broken). I really don’t want to let go of the car but I feel like it may be inevitable as maintenance costs keep increasing as the car ages. Should I sell it (FWIW, I bought the car in 2008 for around 170k and it’s currently worth 40k)?

If I do decide to sell the car, I’m currently considering replacing it with something that’s engaging enough to drive and yet can still be used as a daily (Ex. A 991, but I would only like to buy a car that’s 3 years or newer). Here are some cars that I’ve been considering: 718 GTS 4.0, Mustang Dark Horse, G87 M2 (it’s 80k cheaper than an G8X where I live), Emira, 911 Carrera (I think it’s getting way to expensive for what it is though and don’t like the changes they’ve made to the 992.2 ), 8Y RS3 hatch, and F-Type R75 (Sadly, the Alpine A110, C8 Z06. CT4/5 BWs, and Giulia Quadrifoglio aren’t available in my country). I’ve also been thinking about stretching my budget a little bit and getting a 992.2 GT3 touring (I can get one at list) or an Artura (Some well-specced Arturas in inventory can be found for less money than a base GT3). Any thoughts? Thanks sincerely.

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One correction - the e9x M came with a dual-clutch transmission (DCT), not SMG.

Until recently I was the original owner of a ‘09 e92 M3 with 35k miles and a ‘12 e92 M3 with 27k miles. I planned on keeping them but medical issues forced me to sell the ‘09 so I understand why you want to hold onto your ‘08.

You have a very wide range of cars that you’re looking to replace your e92 M with, only you can pick its replacement. I personally would not buy a g87 (or any g8x). What about a ‘20 f82 CS? It’s 1-2 years older than what you are considering but it is an awesome car with a DCT. Based on your list, the only car with similar NA high-rpm engine is the 992.2 GT3 Touring. That’s also the only car on your list that I’d buy. Good luck with car decision making.
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Hello,

Thank-you for asking and quite a selection of cars you like. I am going throught the same dilema as you as to sinking money into an old car that I truly love or take that money and put it towards something newer. It is hard to compare prices from Canada to Taiwan, but the Darkhorse here runs about the same price as a G87 M2, while the Emira and 718 GTS 4.0 are at least 50% - 100% more expensive depending on if you want a slightly used spec or new. The rest is 100% more of what is available here. I took a 2019 and 2024 manual M2 out for a test drive and was undwhelmed. Did not feel any faster or better handling then mine and not worth the extra money IMO to have newer tech. I have owned my 2008 over 10 years and I plan on keeping mine for at least another year since it runs so well and sounds amazing even though it is stock.
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      12-20-2024, 01:55 PM   #4
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I sold my 2008 e90 manual and just recently bought another 10 years later! I also own a 997 turbo and 85 911. The bmw is another animal. You will miss it. The values are going up, you already did 10k of the 20k you needed to fix. IMO dont sell it, just add another car to the stable. Where else will you get to experience a v8 m3? The newer cars all have electric steering and other BS, if you want to experience the car the older ones, like you have, do the trick. Thats just my opinion, do with it as you wish.
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Not sure what the parking situation is for you, but hang on to it and get something else in addition to!
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I would hold onto it. The original owner that I bought my E90 from texted me a few months ago saying he missed the E90. Even with a new fully speced out G80 that he bought. He said he would rather have the E90.

The new bmws lack the analog feeling these cars have. You’ll never see a new V8 M3 again. Even an non M. Everything is going electric.
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      12-21-2024, 03:13 AM   #7
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Not sure what the parking situation is for you, but hang on to it and get something else in addition to!
I have an additional parking space, but it's unlikely that I'll get another car due to personal issues
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I currently daily driver a really cheap Toyota Prius, I do all the work myself and the car gets me point a to point b. This allows me to store my m3 away in a garage and take my time to do all the work it will ever need. I would keep your car, buy a cheap daily driver IF the car means a lot to you.

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One correction - the e9x M came with a dual-clutch transmission (DCT), not SMG.

Until recently I was the original owner of a ‘09 e92 M3 with 35k miles and a ‘12 e92 M3 with 27k miles. I planned on keeping them but medical issues forced me to sell the ‘09 so I understand why you want to hold onto your ‘08.

You have a very wide range of cars that you’re looking to replace your e92 M with, only you can pick its replacement. I personally would not buy a g87 (or any g8x). What about a ‘20 f82 CS? It’s 1-2 years older than what you are considering but it is an awesome car with a DCT. Based on your list, the only car with similar NA high-rpm engine is the 992.2 GT3 Touring. That’s also the only car on your list that I’d buy. Good luck with car decision making.
Thanks a lot for the advice. I've yet to take a look at the F80/F82 CSs as well (Taiwan only received fewer than 10 allocations for these cars; making it nearly impossible for me to get my hands on one) but have taken a look the F87 CS. Ultimately, I concluded that I’d still choose the E92 over the F87, as I'm concerned the S55 simply won’t compare to the S65.

I've also been eyeing 911s for a long time now (both Carreras and GT3s). However, most of the changes they've made to the 992.2 generation (Digital gauge cluster, new interior color combinations. wheels, and most of the other exterior and interior changes) I really dislike. When combined with the exorbitant prices that is Porsche is charging for these cars (a 992.1 GT3 was around $300k in 2020, it's now closer to 370k; a base Carrera has gone from around $195k in 2020 to $235k right now), they just don't hold the same appeal for me anymore.
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I currently daily driver a really cheap Toyota Prius, I do all the work myself and the car gets me point a to point b. This allows me to store my m3 away in a garage and take my time to do all the work it will ever need. I would keep your car, buy a cheap daily driver IF the car means a lot to you.
I already have two other daily drivers and I’ve only put about 2,000 miles on my M3 this year. I’ve never taken it to the track, though I did drive it more frequently when it was newer. Still do really appreciate the advice though (love your car btw!).

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I’m in a similar conondrum but without the large maintenance bill - I bought my e92 3 years ago and have since spent probably $12k in mods and maintenance since then. Worth every penny. However I’m about $50k all in, and there’s probably another $7-9k to get the car to where I want it - Ohlins, Camber Plates, new bushings, front end respray. At that point I’m nearly $60k in, which isn’t bad by any means but the spread from $60k to say a $90k GTS is much smaller than the spread from the ~$38k I paid for the car - so I’ve started looking at stuff in the $90k range as well with the idea of parting out the M3 and selling it if I find something I like in that range. I don’t use backseats so there’s nothing stopping me from a 2 seat sports car. Modern BMWs do nothing for me since they’re too numb. The Cayman GTS doesn’t do much for me visually, and non GT Porsches are too common where I live. C7 Z06 is up there but I think it’s a bit too much car for me and I can’t do the Corvette thing. I drove the Emira though and loved it - hydraulic steering, great interior, rode really well and the reactions to drivers inputs were nearly telepathic. The 3.5 isn’t as unique nor as interesting of a powertrain as the S65 but the engine still has character and sounds good (plus there’s not much between you and the powertrain behind you so you “feel” and hear more). Plan is to sell the M once I get the Emira but whether or not I can actually part with the car remains to be seen.

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Thanks a lot for the advice. I've yet to take a look at the F80/F82 CSs as well (Taiwan only received fewer than 10 allocations for these cars; making it nearly impossible for me to get my hands on one) but have taken a look the F87 CS. Ultimately, I concluded that I’d still choose the E92 over the F87, as I'm concerned the S55 simply won’t compare to the S65.

I've also been eyeing 911s for a long time now (both Carreras and GT3s). However, most of the changes they've made to the 992.2 generation (Digital gauge cluster, new interior color combinations. wheels, and most of the other exterior and interior changes) I really dislike. When combined with the exorbitant prices that is Porsche is charging for these cars (a 992.1 GT3 was around $300k in 2020, it's now closer to 370k; a base Carrera has gone from around $195k in 2020 to $235k right now), they just don't hold the same appeal for me anymore.
The s55 is a very different from the s65 but that doesn’t take away from the performance of the s55. The low-end torque makes the f8x a much better daily driver. My f82 is a ‘16 so it has its peak torque
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The s55 is a very different from the s65 but that doesn’t take away from the performance of the s55. The low-end torque makes the f8x a much better daily driver. My f82 is a ‘16 so it has its peak torque
I have no doubt about the performance of the S55, I’m just concerned it might not be as unique or engaging as the S65.
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I have no doubt about the performance of the S55, I’m just concerned it might not be as unique or engaging as the S65.
I enjoy driving the f82 with a GTS ecu tune after driving the e92 M3/s65 with a 3.62 FD DCT LSD + stage 2 tune with 8.6k rpm redline. The s65 with a Karbonius CF Plenum + Dinan CF intake elbow wins on sound and pulling all the way to an 8.6k rpm redline. The f82/s55 is still engaging but for different reasons. Managing torque/throttle in a 2nd gear low-speed corner is challenging compared to the s65. The f8x is lighter than a e92 M3 (my e92 M3s are a little lighter than the f82 due to titanium exhaust and some CF parts).

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I would hold onto it. The original owner that I bought my E90 from texted me a few months ago saying he missed the E90. Even with a new fully speced out G80 that he bought. He said he would rather have the E90.

The new bmws lack the analog feeling these cars have. You’ll never see a new V8 M3 again. Even an non M. Everything is going electric.
Not only that but unless you drive on the Autobahn or live in a place where driving Autobahn like speeds do not result in consequences you’re likely not to get the same thrills as those cars don’t require effort to go fast which eliminates most of the fun (for me anyway).

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If you can afford a 992.2 gt3 touring, and you want one, buy one. I doubt they will make the next gen without hybrid electric motors and turbos.
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I have a THE E92 and the M2CS. They are both phenomenal and if you don't want an old car go for the CS. Porsche GT isn't level but the market is overheating for some time now. They will not come down in price IMHO.
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If you like the m3, fix it and keep it.

Buying another of the cars on your list won't "save" any money. They, too, will age and require expensive maintenance. It boils down to which one you get the most enjoyment out of.
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