WTB: Ohlins R&T

[a5m]

Figured I'd give this a shot before opting for a new set. Please let me know if you're looking to sell.

Thank you

[a5m]

Bump. Hoping to pull the trigger soon.

[vincE92M3]

Originally Posted by a5m

Bump. Hoping to pull the trigger soon.

Please let me know where you're finding the best price. Also looking for a set.

[a5m]

Originally Posted by vincE92M3

Please let me know where you're finding the best price. Also looking for a set.

PSIM4 On here (Apex Gruppe) has the best price so far actually. Still hoping for a used set but will probably go that direction.

[vincE92M3]

Originally Posted by a5m

PSIM4 On here (Apex Gruppe) has the best price so far actually. Still hoping for a used set but will probably go that direction.

Thank you!

[PSIM4]

Originally Posted by a5m

PSIM4 On here (Apex Gruppe) has the best price so far actually. Still hoping for a used set but will probably go that direction.

Appreciate that!

[pathall1]

Originally Posted by PSIM4

Appreciate that!

Feel free to DM me on instagram as well @pat_hall1 - thanks!

[a5m]

Probably last bump. About to make a move soon.

[vincE92M3]

Originally Posted by a5m

Probably last bump. About to make a move soon.

Shopped around and ultimately ended up going with PSIM4

[a5m]

Originally Posted by vincE92M3

Shopped around and ultimately ended up going with PSIM4

Yup thanks, best price for new. Bumping in case of a used set I can snag.

[a5m]

Bumping this back up again. Thinking of doing custom valving so figured I'd start with a used set.

Please lmk if you have a set to sell, thanks.

[a5m]

Bump

[heyitsalex]

i have a set coming up real soon. Used Ohlins R&T with Milway camber plates. Let me know if youre still interested

[a5m]

Originally Posted by heyitsalex

i have a set coming up real soon. Used Ohlins R&T with Milway camber plates. Let me know if youre still interested

Thanks, PM'd!

[M3SQRD]

Originally Posted by a5m

Bumping this back up again. Thinking of doing custom valving so figured I'd start with a used set.

Please lmk if you have a set to sell, thanks.

Why have you decided to replace your custom MCS 1WNR setup? What are you expecting the R&Ts to do that the 1WNRs can’t do? You said you’re getting the R&Ts custom revalved. Who’s doing it? Is it truly custom or is 3DM, PSI or Turner (Turner doesn’t have in-housing damper revalving capability and didn’t have it when Will Turner still owned the parts business) spec’d damping? OEM spring rates are likely not possible with linear 65 mm ID springs (e.g., a Swift 8” long 224 lbf/in spring will compress 4.1” from just the static load but the max useable unpreloaded stroke is 5.1”; Ohlins 65 mm ID springs will have less useable stroke than a Swift 65 mm ID spring because each spring coil has a larger OD). What spring rates do you plan on running or are they the 3DM or Turner road kit spring rates? Achieving stock ride heights with minimal spring preload may be somewhat challenging with custom spring rates and lengths even with the adjustable length damper bodies.

This is not a dig. Assuming street ride quality is your primary goal, you would have been much better off buying an OTS MCS 2WR or another high-end setup. It’s always best to buy once, cry once. Cost of MCS 1WNR + custom valved R&Ts > cost of Intrax 1K2 (which can be spec’d with stock spring rates) and Nitron R1 OGSM (OG Shark Motorsports) spec setups or getting close to the cost of a MCS 2WR and Nitron R3 OGSM spec setups.

[a5m]

Originally Posted by M3SQRD

Why have you decided to replace your custom MCS 1WNR setup? What are you expecting the R&Ts to do that the 1WNRs can’t do? You said you’re getting the R&Ts custom revalved. Who’s doing it? Is it truly custom or is 3DM, PSI or Turner (Turner doesn’t have in-housing damper revalving capability and didn’t have it when Will Turner still owned the parts business) spec’d damping? OEM spring rates are likely not possible with linear 65 mm ID springs (e.g., a Swift 8” long 224 lbf/in spring will compress 4.1” from just the static load but the max useable unpreloaded stroke is 5.1”; Ohlins 65 mm ID springs will have less useable stroke than a Swift 65 mm ID spring because each spring coil has a larger OD). What spring rates do you plan on running or are they the 3DM or Turner road kit spring rates? Achieving stock ride heights with minimal spring preload may be somewhat challenging with custom spring rates and lengths even with the adjustable length damper bodies.

This is not a dig. Assuming street ride quality is your primary goal, you would have been much better off buying an OTS MCS 2WR or another high-end setup. It’s always best to buy once, cry once. Cost of MCS 1WNR + custom valved R&Ts > cost of Intrax 1K2 (which can be spec’d with stock spring rates) and Nitron R1 OGSM (OG Shark Motorsports) spec setups or getting close to the cost of a MCS 2WR and Nitron R3 OGSM spec setups.

Getting lower I want to break necks when I put my RI-A's on.

I explored all those options, and thought I'd be happy with the Eibach Pro Kit ride height, but I'm not. Actually on OE wheels car looks great, but for aftermarket I personally wish car sat lower.

I spoke with 3DM and PSI, didn't know they had a 'spec'. Maybe for those who are wanting to go in the opposite direction, with a stiffer setup for track use. For comfort they both suggested leaving them as is, which I might do. Ohlins only offers softer springs for the rear than what's supplied in the kit - 110N/mm (628lb) & 80N/mm (456lb).

I've strongly considered the ST XTA+3 too. 2 Ways or even 3 Ways seem to be the game changer when it comes to dialing in ride quality.

[M3SQRD]

Originally Posted by a5m

Getting lower I want to break necks when I put my RI-A's on.

I explored all those options, and thought I'd be happy with the Eibach Pro Kit ride height, but I'm not. Actually on OE wheels car looks great, but for aftermarket I personally wish car sat lower.

I spoke with 3DM and PSI, didn't know they had a 'spec'. Maybe for those who are wanting to go in the opposite direction, with a stiffer setup for track use. For comfort they both suggested leaving them as is, which I might do. Ohlins only offers softer springs for the rear than what's supplied in the kit - 110N/mm (628lb) & 80N/mm (456lb).

I've strongly considered the ST XTA+3 too. 2 Ways or even 3 Ways seem to be the game changer when it comes to dialing in ride quality.

You could use the Ground Control coilover conversion (HAS) kit with the 1WNR.

Turner and 3DM offer road kits with even softer rates for the street.

Not all 2-way and 3-way dampers have harshless ride quality. KW isn’t one of them. Not even their 3-way Competition (one step below racing) and Racing lines have a compliant harshless ride quality. Same applies to the Nitron OTS R3 3-ways which is why OGSM invested the time and money to custom valve and select custom springs for the OTS R1 and R3 setups

[M3SQRD]

a5m

If you want a suspension setup that will give you the performance and comfort you’re looking for as well as setting lower ride heights then I’d recommend either the Nitron R1 OGSM spec with their softest street spring rates or the Intrax 1K2 with stock spring rates and ARC (anti-roll control) and Black Titan options.

I believe this is a much better approach than attempting to achieve your goals with custom valve & springs or custom springs only on R&Ts because I’m concerned you are not going to reach all of your goals, specifically the harshless and compliant street ride quality. I know the options I’ve listed above will reach, and probably exceed, your goals. It’ll be the last suspension setup you’ll purchase for your e9x M.

What does PSI and 3DM currently charge to rebuild/revalve four dampers?

[a5m]

Originally Posted by M3SQRD

a5m

If you want a suspension setup that will give you the performance and comfort you’re looking for as well as setting lower ride heights then I’d recommend either the Nitron R1 OGSM spec with their softest street spring rates or the Intrax 1K2 with stock spring rates and ARC (anti-roll control) and Black Titan options.

I believe this is a much better approach than attempting to achieve your goals with custom valve & springs or custom springs only on R&Ts because I’m concerned you are not going to reach all of your goals, specifically the harshless and compliant street ride quality. I know the options I’ve listed above will reach, and probably exceed, your goals. It’ll be the last suspension setup you’ll purchase for your e9x M.

What does PSI and 3DM currently charge to rebuild/revalve four dampers?

PSI is currently charging $125 per damper to revalve. Didn't get into pricing with 3DM, but imagine it's around that number.

Any particular reason why you recommend the Nitron or Intrax? Do you have experience with them? Was looking at the 1K2 because of the ARC tech but the setup gets pretty pricey, and I'm not sure it will actually assist in comfort. Last time I spoke with them they said apart from reducing unwanted body roll from running softer springs, which the ARC allows, it doesn't actually help with comfort.

[M3SQRD]

Originally Posted by a5m

PSI is currently charging $125 per damper to revalve. Didn't get into pricing with 3DM, but imagine it's around that number.

Any particular reason why you recommend the Nitron or Intrax? Do you have experience with them? Was looking at the 1K2 because of the ARC tech but the setup gets pretty pricey, and I'm not sure it will actually assist in comfort. Last time I spoke with them they said apart from reducing unwanted body roll from running softer springs, which the ARC allows, it doesn't actually help with comfort.

I’m recommending the Nitron R1 OGSM spec (can only purchase it through OG Shark Motorsports) based on its ~$4600 price. Another option is the Nitron Roadsport kit which uses a tapered spring that uses the stock upper strut mount; however, I don’t believe OGSM has developed their own custom damping version but its price is in the mid $3k range (?). OGSM worked with Inertia Labs/Chris (pro chassis/damper engineer) to develop their kits. Their custom R1 and R3 OGSM spec setups were custom valved to be extremely friendly on the street. They modified the high-speed compressive blow-off (HSCBO) valve and HSC, as well as HSR, to achieve their goals.

Send a PM to forum member noemon if you want to hear from someone who was looking for a setup with the best street ride comfort on his f82. He has the 1k2 with ARC and Black Titan (he also has the TracTive touring f8x EDC plug-n-play semi-active dampers which also use stock spring rates; says the 1k2 is just as compliant as the TracTive Touring EDC setup). I recommended the 1k2 because based on the pricing sheet I have I think the 1k2 with the two options is around $5500 (?) but I could be wrong. Their HSCBO valve and HSC damping combined with the ARC/soft spring rates (match stock rates) produces a setup that’s extremely friendly on the street.

I didn’t recommend MCS 2W or 3W remote setups, Moton 2-way remote setup, Ohlins TTX, Nitron R3 OGSM spec and JRZ 2- or 3-way remote Reds (Reds = pro motorsport dampers, Blues = non-pro TT/HPDE/street dampers) because now you’re into the > $8000 price range.

Personally, I’d stay away from KW V3 2- or 3-way CS, V4 3-way CS, V3 2-way Racing, V4 3-way Racing, 3A 3-way Competition and V4 4-wayRacing setups. They are all too harsh for the street.