GTBoard: M3 E92 vs M6

Gabri343 · 11-26-2007, 01:15 PM

Extreme punishment.....

M3Bruno · 11-26-2007, 02:08 PM

Harsh.

Big Windy · 11-26-2007, 02:18 PM

smoked

Big Windy · 11-26-2007, 02:30 PM

okay so the reason is because the M3 is brand new and still hasn't gone through the break-in period. thats my justification

Los Angeles · 11-26-2007, 02:41 PM

No PROcede v.2/3/whatever-you-have to save this 3 series!

Gimme the M6 > M3 anyday!

savage.ulm1 · 11-26-2007, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabri343

Extreme punishment.....

Gabri343 I know you from the Italian forum where you write. Can you tell us better which is your personal opinion about the new M3 e92? I read your posts in this Forum and in the other two where I know you write and honestly I would prefer to read your opinion and not only to look at your "nice" finds..
just curious to ear your voice here....

regards
Savage

Epacy · 11-26-2007, 04:07 PM

From m5board.com

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gustav

BMW M3 E92 V8 vs BVMW M6 V-10. Since this was "leaked" from a participating member I cannot confirm if it was this race I misshifted or not.

This might explain some of the beating...

phoenixbmwlife · 11-26-2007, 05:36 PM

Video no longer available.

drsnooz · 11-26-2007, 05:44 PM

Where's the video???

Epacy · 11-26-2007, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Epacy

From m5board.com

This might explain some of the beating...

Check my post or below.

[u2b]v/vySMeqSH_Ds&rel=1[/u2b]

Gabri343 · 11-27-2007, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by savage.ulm1

Gabri343 I know you from the Italian forum where you write. Can you tell us better which is your personal opinion about the new M3 e92? I read your posts in this Forum and in the other two where I know you write and honestly I would prefer to read your opinion and not only to look at your "nice" finds..
just curious to ear your voice here....

regards
Savage

Which italian forum? I tell you about new M3 after friday, i will go to Misano circuit for a test.

I tested M3 for a few km on the road only and I was not satisfied......

BMWCali · 11-27-2007, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Epacy

Check my post or below.

[u2b]v/vySMeqSH_Ds&rel=1[/u2b]

HOLY BAJESUS! The E92 M3 looks like it's standing still compared to the M6. I was hoping it would be only a few car lengths behind. It was like 50 car lengths behind. Could hardly even see the headlights. That is super disappointing. How can a car destroy another car with only 80 less horsepower so bad. That's, like, wow. Am I missing something here? My 330i could keep up with the M6 as well as that E92 M3 did. Was the E92 M3 in limp mode or something?

Leg · 11-27-2007, 06:54 PM

Well, seen as the M6 BMW official 0-62 time is 4.6 seconds and the M3 is 4.8 I cant see there being a noticeable difference between them in reality.

I havent got the in gear times but bearing in mind the 80bhp or so difference along with 1655kg (M3) and 1785kg (M6 Coupe, ragtop is over 2000!!) weights I'll be happy to take an M6 on should I see one when Im in my M3.

Clearly this is either rigged or down to the driver.

swamp2 · 11-27-2007, 07:21 PM

Not being a big fan of the M6 I can't pull a bunch of specs out of my head or from the net for it. I have posted below a quick simulation using CarTest of M3 vs. M6. Both 0-X and rolling starts are included. The M6 is heavier but still boasts a significantly better power to weight ratio. The 9.3 s 0-100 mph result from CarTest seems to match the 9.4 number I found with a quick i-search. These airfield tests are often these roll-ons and the CarTest results include such roll-ons. I think they typically go like 60kph - 250kph or so. The simulations do indeed show the M6 pulling consistently on and widening the gap consistently vs. the M3. Simulations show about a 85 foot gap at 150 mph (150 mph for the M6)!

The M3 M-DCT results however is a totally different story - pretty much neck and neck hanging with the M6! Some time to speed contests and some time to distance in favor of each car. Go M-DCT!

Epacy · 11-27-2007, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWCali

HOLY BAJESUS! How can a car destroy another car with only 80 less horsepower so bad.

Did you read the whole thread?

savage.ulm1 · 11-28-2007, 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabri343

Which italian forum? I tell you about new M3 after friday, i will go to Misano circuit for a test.

I tested M3 for a few km on the road only and I was not satisfied......

There is a nickname like your in Bmwpassion...

I will be there on that circuit on Thursday for the test ..

bye

Gabri343 · 11-28-2007, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by savage.ulm1

There is a nickname like your in Bmwpassion...

I will be there on that circuit on Thursday for the test ..

bye

.......for 1 day, i wil be there friday afternoon from 1 pm
Mi sono autobannato da quel forum

Steved · 11-30-2007, 01:36 PM

Well, having tested the M3 against an M6, that video was not representative. It took the M6 running at well over 120mph to pull away from the M3, and then only gradually. Someone must have missed a gear or forgot that the M3 revs to 8400rpm...

swamp2 · 11-30-2007, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steved

Well, having tested the M3 against an M6, that video was not representative. It took the M6 running at well over 120mph to pull away from the M3, and then only gradually. Someone must have missed a gear or forgot that the M3 revs to 8400rpm...

Like my simulation. Within about 1 second to 100 mph then the gap moves up to close to 3 seconds.

Steved · 11-30-2007, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swamp2

Like my simulation. Within about 1 second to 100 mph then the gap moves up to close to 3 seconds.

Yep, on the road there really was nothing between them. For an M6 to pull away from an M3 he'd have to be 'well' into license losing territory.

I've upset a few people before by mentioning that my AMG ML63 puts up a damm good fight against an M6. I had a 20 mile race against one in Italy last summer and it wasn't until we were well above 150mph that the M6 had pulled 100yds or so on my SUV, below 100mph I could pull ahead slightly and then hold it behind until wind resistance dealt the killer blow above 120mph. That's what 100lb/ft more torque can do for you...

Leg · 11-30-2007, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steved

Yep, on the road there really was nothing between them. For an M6 to pull away from an M3 he'd have to be 'well' into license losing territory.

I've upset a few people before by mentioning that my AMG ML63 puts up a damm good fight against an M6. I had a 20 mile race against one in Italy last summer and it wasn't until we were well above 150mph that the M6 had pulled 100yds or so on my SUV, below 100mph I could pull ahead slightly and then hold it behind until wind resistance dealt the killer blow above 120mph. That's what 100lb/ft more torque can do for you...

Steve, looking at your garage, can I come on your next Bank Robbery please?

lucid · 11-30-2007, 05:01 PM

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1. Devote yourself to noble scholarly pursuits such as writing, arts, and/or science.

2. Devote yourself to noble motorsport pursuits such as racing and/or reporting for automobile publications.

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Leg Captain 94 Rep 844 Posts Drives: E92 M3 V8 Alpine White Join Date: May 2007 Location: York, England iTrader: (0)	Well, seen as the M6 BMW official 0-62 time is 4.6 seconds and the M3 is 4.8 I cant see there being a noticeable difference between them in reality. I havent got the in gear times but bearing in mind the 80bhp or so difference along with 1655kg (M3) and 1785kg (M6 Coupe, ragtop is over 2000!!) weights I'll be happy to take an M6 on should I see one when Im in my M3. Clearly this is either rigged or down to the driver.
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swamp2 Lieutenant General 611 Rep 10,407 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Diego, CA USA iTrader: (3)	FWIW Not being a big fan of the M6 I can't pull a bunch of specs out of my head or from the net for it. I have posted below a quick simulation using CarTest of M3 vs. M6. Both 0-X and rolling starts are included. The M6 is heavier but still boasts a significantly better power to weight ratio. The 9.3 s 0-100 mph result from CarTest seems to match the 9.4 number I found with a quick i-search. These airfield tests are often these roll-ons and the CarTest results include such roll-ons. I think they typically go like 60kph - 250kph or so. The simulations do indeed show the M6 pulling consistently on and widening the gap consistently vs. the M3. Simulations show about a 85 foot gap at 150 mph (150 mph for the M6)! The M3 M-DCT results however is a totally different story - pretty much neck and neck hanging with the M6! Some time to speed contests and some time to distance in favor of each car. Go M-DCT! Attached Images
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