Leaving the E9X M3 for F8X M3? Don't give up your E9X for anything

[W///]

Originally Posted by M3 Esq

^ Nice build, almost the way I'd build one. Why no adaptive suspension? Are you going aftermarket?

I've been debating back and forth. At "only" $1k, it's not a bad pick.

Honestly, I have EDC on my car, and I more or less leave it at Comfort 90% of the time (although I have Swift springs which stiffens it up). My E36 also has coilovers set on full stiff, and I don't mind it. I don't really play around with the settings all that much to be honest, so I don't think I'd miss out all that much by going passive.

I know for sure I'll drop the car eventually (front gap is terrible, worse than E9x was). Same with wheels. I like the 19s. But I know sooner or later, the mod bug will bite, and I'd want to go aftermarket.

[Rambler]

[QUOTE

So if you added a sedan + 2014 Formula 1 car which are also turbocharged now... the cocktail you get is an F80. Still the best all-around car in the world.[/QUOTE]

Except unlike the S65, the S55 has no F1 blood passed down to it. So the same blender metaphor doesn't quite work with the F80.

[Alex07M3]

Originally Posted by W///

I've been debating back and forth. At "only" $1k, it's not a bad pick.

Honestly, I have EDC on my car, and I more or less leave it at Comfort 90% of the time (although I have Swift springs which stiffens it up). My E36 also has coilovers set on full stiff, and I don't mind it. I don't really play around with the settings all that much to be honest, so I don't think I'd miss out all that much by going passive.

I know for sure I'll drop the car eventually (front gap is terrible, worse than E9x was). Same with wheels. I like the 19s. But I know sooner or later, the mod bug will bite, and I'd want to go aftermarket.

It's the way I see it also! Saving 2k with these two options is 2k that you can put on some nicer wheels and better suspension then the stock ones!

[Amirsm3]

Originally Posted by W///

Like I said, this is for a car built to MY taste. I realize most people would go with DCT and Exec Pack that would push the car to over $70k. When it comes time to buy one, the only thing I might add would be ZCP, if it's worth the money. Otherwise, this is exactly how I'd want it. Keep in mind, this is without any discounts (CCA, un4orgettable test drive), and it's at MSRP (which you can do a bit better if you look hard enough). So I'm thinking $63k should be doable, but that's another story.

That's 25k cheaper than my build

[W///]

Originally Posted by Amirsm3

That's 25k cheaper than my build

Exactly. That's 2 mint E36 M3's right there. Do you really want those options THAT bad?

[Amirsm3]

Originally Posted by W///

Exactly. That's 2 mint E36 M3's right there. Do you really want those options THAT bad?

I know I'm gonna end up spending money on a BBK so I feel like the CCB option is the ticket. Outside of that, I know I want the DCT.

I really want a la carte options lol.

[W///]

Originally Posted by Amirsm3

I know I'm gonna end up spending money on a BBK so I feel like the CCB option is the ticket. Outside of that, I know I want the DCT.

I really want a la carte options lol.

No kidding, me too. Although if there's one thing that the E36 has taught me the last couple of weeks, it's that just don't need all these things. The E36 has a super stiff clutch, perfect steering feel (IMO), electric windows, a sunroof, AC and a radio. That's pretty much it. And that's all I need!

[1MOREMOD]

Originally Posted by Amirsm3

I know I'm gonna end up spending money on a BBK so I feel like the CCB option is the ticket. Outside of that, I know I want the DCT.

I really want a la carte options lol.

You want to replace ccb if you track?

[bradleyland]

Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

You want to replace ccb if you track?

It sounds like he's saying he'd take the CCB option because he knows he' eventually spend money on a BBK if he didn't.

[W///]

Originally Posted by bradleyland

It sounds like he's saying he'd take the CCB option because he knows he' eventually spend money on a BBK if he didn't.

I honestly see no reason to even go BBK with this car, unless you want the look factor. The base brakes are THAT good. As a matter of fact, they are as good as 991 brakes, and those were about the best brakes I've ever used before.

Karusell (I more than trust his opinion) reported absolutely no brake fade on the track, which is almost hard to believe considering this is a BMW. Do pads, brake fluid and maybe SS and you'll be good to go.

[Amirsm3]

Originally Posted by W///

I honestly see no reason to even go BBK with this car, unless you want the look factor. The base brakes are THAT good. As a matter of fact, they are as good as 991 brakes, and those were about the best brakes I've ever used before.

Karusell (I more than trust his opinion) reported absolutely no brake fade on the track, which is almost hard to believe considering this is a BMW. Do pads, brake fluid and maybe SS and you'll be good to go.

It's definitely look factor. And if I was gonna spend 6k on a Brembo GT kit, I may as well spend 2k more and get something from the factory.

[bradleyland]

Originally Posted by W///

I honestly see no reason to even go BBK with this car, unless you want the look factor. The base brakes are THAT good. As a matter of fact, they are as good as 991 brakes, and those were about the best brakes I've ever used before.

Karusell (I more than trust his opinion) reported absolutely no brake fade on the track, which is almost hard to believe considering this is a BMW. Do pads, brake fluid and maybe SS and you'll be good to go.

Yeah, when Karusell said he hit 12 laps without fade, I was sold on the steelies.

[Dave07997S]

Keep in mind most PCar guys switch out the PCCBs for steelies at the track. The rotors are ridiculously expensive to replace.

Dave

[F1Venom]

So I just saw a 2015 M3 in the flesh today and I laughed. It looks like a square box. 😂

[Alex07M3]

Originally Posted by F1Venom

So I just saw a 2015 M3 in the flesh today and I laughed. It looks like a square box. ðŸ˜à ƒÂ‚‚

Yeah, I know what you mean, far from ugly but not as nice as I was expecting, the M4 looks bad ass though! I'm starting to prefer the more subtel flares of the F82, the rear flares of the F80 look a bit like an after thought from close, mostly the part that is touching the rear door! Still a great looking car though!

[F1Venom]

Oh, it's a good looking car for sure but I prefer the E9x looks, even the C63 507's looks over it.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by W///

I honestly see no reason to even go BBK with this car, unless you want the look factor. The base brakes are THAT good. As a matter of fact, they are as good as 991 brakes, and those were about the best brakes I've ever used before.

Karusell (I more than trust his opinion) reported absolutely no brake fade on the track, which is almost hard to believe considering this is a BMW. Do pads, brake fluid and maybe SS and you'll be good to go.

I trust his opinion as well. He made me amped to receive my car.

[LarThaL]

So I just test drove the M4 back to back on the same roads with my e92.

Observations:

1. The M4 is bigger and drives bigger than the e92.

2. Steering is pretty good. Better than what I expected, but the sharpness is off just a touch from the e92

3. No discernable difference in the suspension feel/handling/composure, but I was no where near the limits.

4. Exhaust from outside the car at idle is pitiful and embarrassing. From inside, overall sound is okay. Not great, just okay. Nothing close to the automotive symphony produced by the S65, however.

5. Interior is different, but not really any nicer.

6. The seats, for me, were better than the e92 in how they fit my body

7. With regards to the engine, they did a pretty good job of eliminating turbo lag. Of course, throttle response is not like the S65, but it isn't bad by any means. And there is plenty of solid torque in the mid range as many have said.

8. The car I drove was a manual and really felt similar to my e92. The shifter was longer overall and I didn't like this. I hated the rev matching. Felt very odd. I prefer to do this myself.

Overall, it is a nice car, but it just isn't really any better than the e92, just different. And to tell you the truth, it doesn't drive that differently either. Apart from the mid-range torque, the e92 is as good or better. Even the looks...it is a good looking car, but so is the e92. It's just a new face.

I am impressed with the car, but no more than I was impressed when I drove the e92 for the first time.

I will certainly consider it when it is time for a new car, but overall, from the e92, it is a lateral move at best.

[Wolfinwolfsclothing]

Originally Posted by W///

I honestly see no reason to even go BBK with this car, unless you want the look factor. The base brakes are THAT good. As a matter of fact, they are as good as 991 brakes, and those were about the best brakes I've ever used before.

Karusell (I more than trust his opinion) reported absolutely no brake fade on the track, which is almost hard to believe considering this is a BMW. Do pads, brake fluid and maybe SS and you'll be good to go.

Where are you judging their worth? The Ceramics are supposed to be very good but I havnt heard much about the stock brakes...esp being a loft comparo to stock brakes on a 991 which are the standard in the car industry.

[Ezio]

Originally Posted by LarThaL

So I just test drove the M4 back to back on the same roads with my e92.

Observations:

1. The M4 is bigger and drives bigger than the e92.

2. Steering is pretty good. Better than what I expected, but the sharpness is off just a touch from the e92

3. No discernable difference in the suspension feel/handling/composure, but I was no where near the limits.

4. Exhaust from outside the car at idle is pitiful and embarrassing. From inside, overall sound is okay. Not great, just okay. Nothing close to the automotive symphony produced by the S65, however.

5. Interior is different, but not really any nicer.

6. The seats, for me, were better than the e92 in how they fit my body

7. With regards to the engine, they did a pretty good job of eliminating turbo lag. Of course, throttle response is not like the S65, but it isn't bad by any means. And there is plenty of solid torque in the mid range as many have said.

8. The car I drove was a manual and really felt similar to my e92. The shifter was longer overall and I didn't like this. I hated the rev matching. Felt very odd. I prefer to do this myself.

Overall, it is a nice car, but it just isn't really any better than the e92, just different. And to tell you the truth, it doesn't drive that differently either. Apart from the mid-range torque, the e92 is as good or better. Even the looks...it is a good looking car, but so is the e92. It's just a new face.

I am impressed with the car, but no more than I was impressed when I drove the e92 for the first time.

I will certainly consider it when it is time for a new car, but overall, from the e92, it is a lateral move at best.

this is the kind of review i could see my self giving out. the car being more different than better.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Wolfinwolfsclothing

Where are you judging their worth? The Ceramics are supposed to be very good but I havnt heard much about the stock brakes...esp being a loft comparo to stock brakes on a 991 which are the standard in the car industry.

The stock brakes have been reviewed. Peruse the F8X forum.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Ezio

this is the kind of review i could see my self giving out. the car being more different than better.

I bet you'd love the car.