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      07-12-2018, 12:15 AM   #45
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First person I've ever seen say they got bored of a manual. Go buy a minivan it may give you the excitement you're searching for!!! "Proper drivers choice" yo
There are a lot of person get bored of mt. You rarely see them on performance oriented car enthusiast forum, but you can find them on the street. All those people who used to drive MT in the old days and transfered to auto as soon as it was available.
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      07-12-2018, 12:19 AM   #46
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I think you dont need to save for gt4. Try gts, it is just as good as gt4 unless you are serious tracker.
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      07-12-2018, 12:32 AM   #47
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Well said!

991.1 are going down nicely in price, and couldn't cry less about it being a PDK, it's probably epic!
Not really...I sold my 991.1S for $8k more than I paid for it 2.5 years ago. Prices have held steady for 3 years now.
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      07-12-2018, 04:54 AM   #48
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F1 drivers aren't driving manual because it's slower-- that has nothing to do with dynamics/enjoyment.

When you're racing, how fast the transmission is matters.
When you're street driving, how much you enjoy driving the car matters.
If you're doing DEs... depends what kind of person you are.

I find the statement of "but in real life, you re not racing on the road.. especially with double clutch transmissions life is more fun since it makes the car even faster comparing to manuals.." to be pretty false. I see very little correlation between "faster" and "more fun" on the street.

That said, I do think some (turbo) modern cars kind of need a fast transmissions-- manuals allow them to fall out of boost, which makes for an unpredictable (bad) driving experience. But, my solution for that is just to not buy any turbo cars
its taste of life thing.. im renting some time to time an E36 M3 drift car in Kiev to drift on track..that car has to be manual.. cause drifting and the general feeling needs a manual.. on track for lap times i rather have a fast transmission like Porsche's PDK.. allows me aggressive downshifts.. and as i said for cars like E46 M3, S2000 few more i rather have manual on every occasion.. but on road.. the whale im driving daily lately i cant even imagine how annoying to have a manual on X6M.. and i never thought i ll advocate auto transmissions to U.S that most of the citizens havent even seen a manual car..

and PS: its not that complicated.. if the car is naturally aspirated and revs high.. manual is more fun..
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      07-12-2018, 09:27 AM   #49
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Not really...I sold my 991.1S for $8k more than I paid for it 2.5 years ago. Prices have held steady for 3 years now.
I agree. I don't think I could find my car ('13C2S CPO) for what I paid for it almost two years ago.
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      07-12-2018, 09:49 AM   #50
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Sorry, was not talking about the american market! Some 911 gt3s are listed close to the 100k euro mark.
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