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      07-12-2018, 10:35 AM   #1
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Angry The absurd convoy of vehicles for Trump in Belgium

The ABSURD convoy for TRUMP's visit in Belgium after the NATO summit.

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Lol Cadillacs, Chevys, Mercs, Audis, Toyotas. Quite the assortment.
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What's absurd about it? As if Trump invented the convoy? Perhaps he should take Uber next time?
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So, the most powerful person in the world rolls with some security? Shocking!
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I'm sure the landing pattern at the local airport was just as congested. I understand that in addition to Air Force One, several C-5's travel with the prez transporting security and vehicles.
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Honestly it's not much different than any President in recent history. There are a few more Belgium locals in the mix than "normal". But those of us local to DC who have to deal with it all the time know, it is not only a big convoy of cars every trip... But the Secret Service will shut down the streets 30 minutes before the President even passes by. In that respect this is actually scaled back.
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      07-12-2018, 04:16 PM   #7
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Did he have a Toilet Car? If not, the other goofy haired looney is still winning.
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Nothing too extraordinary and it's not for just one man. He has a massive entourage for events like this which is who is in those vans.
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Heads of state have travelled this way but more elaborately for thousands of years. I don't see anything remarkable.
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      07-12-2018, 05:24 PM   #10
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All the extra security was necessary in Belgium !
Last week a Jihadi dude was caught here in Belgium with 2 kilo of explosives in his car ..
Guys keep in mind, Belgium is Jihadi breeding ground !
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We don't have video/teleconferencing in this country, so the only way is to fly our president out.
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The absurdity is people believing that was the US President's motorcade. The first major clue is the limos with some other country's flags on the front corners. The other major tell is we didn't see "The Beast" Presidential limo that the US President rides in (even overseas).

As someone who has witnessed these motorcades; the other not-so-obvious tell is that motorcade is moving too slowly; and is actually too small! It's truly impressive to see the Secret Service and NYPD perform these motorcades in Manhattan. They clear the way; then send a bunch of vehicles ahead to run through. When President comes through they absolutely do not stop. If you're in the way they're running you over. That's how people get killed in these things occasionally.

Here is one of the many Presidential motorcade videos I found on YouTube. It doesn't even show the entire precession, but you can see the line of vehicles going on and on.

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The absurdity is people believing that was the US President's motorcade. The first major clue is the limos with some other country's flags on the front corners. The other major tell is we didn't see "The Beast" Presidential limo that the US President rides in (even overseas).

As someone who has witnessed these motorcades; the other not-so-obvious tell is that motorcade is moving too slowly; and is actually too small! It's truly impressive to see the Secret Service and NYPD perform these motorcades in Manhattan. They clear the way; then send a bunch of vehicles ahead to run through. When President comes through they absolutely do not stop. If you're in the way they're running you over. That's how people get killed in these things occasionally.

Here is one of the many Presidential motorcade videos I found on YouTube. It doesn't even show the entire precession, but you can see the line of vehicles going on and on.
I spent 20 years as an Instructor Trainer at JJRTC and assure you that was a medium convoy. When traveling internationally, the host country flag is displayed on the left stanchion.
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The absurdity is people believing that was the US President's motorcade. The first major clue is the limos with some other country's flags on the front corners. The other major tell is we didn't see "The Beast" Presidential limo that the US President rides in (even overseas).

As someone who has witnessed these motorcades; the other not-so-obvious tell is that motorcade is moving too slowly; and is actually too small! It's truly impressive to see the Secret Service and NYPD perform these motorcades in Manhattan. They clear the way; then send a bunch of vehicles ahead to run through. When President comes through they absolutely do not stop. If you're in the way they're running you over. That's how people get killed in these things occasionally.

Here is one of the many Presidential motorcade videos I found on YouTube. It doesn't even show the entire precession, but you can see the line of vehicles going on and on.
I spent 20 years as an Instructor Trainer at JJRTC and assure you that was a medium convoy. When traveling internationally, the host country flag is displayed on the left stanchion.
You're right; I was mistaken. Upon closer inspection I see The Beast(s) with Old Glory on the right stanchion. That's what I get for posting at the dinner table.

Thank you for the correction!
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I'm sure the landing pattern at the local airport was just as congested. I understand that in addition to Air Force One, several C-5's travel with the prez transporting security and vehicles.
On all intl trips unless maintenance has an a/c out of service

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If you've ever spent a bit of time in DC, stuff like this is pretty eye opening the first couple times you see it. ;P
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      07-13-2018, 03:49 PM   #17
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If this causes you to complain, I've been in a secure building when POTUS was there for a visit. Our movements were controlled in the building based on where POTUS was and everyone in this building had very high level clearances.
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If you've ever spent a bit of time in DC, stuff like this is pretty eye opening the first couple times you see it.
The traffic congestion is even worse in places like Los Angeles or San Francisco, where a presidential motorcade isn't a normal event. They will often send The Beast ahead for the last leg of a trip, and helicopter him from the airport to a transfer point near the destination.

Here's an LA Times traffic advisory.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-p...htmlstory.html

BTW, though I'm no Trump fan, the "absurdity" would be the same with any American president. (Okay, maybe Trump needs a little more security when he travels abroad, due to his rhetoric towards countries he deems "shitholes.")
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Question. Who foots the bill? Do Belgium have to pay for the visit or contribute?
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      07-16-2018, 10:31 AM   #20
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Trump the pimp, I guess this is what you get with a family in power traveling

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Question. Who foots the bill? Do Belgium have to pay for the visit or contribute?
The whole point of the trip is the fact that the US pays for EVERYTHING!
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