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      10-01-2019, 11:53 PM   #10429
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Quick question, we've probably already discussed it in here but is anyone running 11" square with 285/30/18 or is it a lost cause up front?? slicer ??
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dogbone runs those sizes on his E90.
I run 10.5" ET25 Titan7 square. I've never had an 11" rim on my car, so i don't know what the deal there is.

Ultimately, it depends on the suspension and length of spring you use (and how low the car sits)......and if you use a spacer.....and.....what else am i forgetting.....oh yeah....camber.....and....yeah.....a lot of things affect what setup you can run in the front.

As far as I know, a 285 does not fit on stock suspension on the front. And something tells me that the 11" rim is a problem on stock front suspension too.

Aftermarket, you have some options, but again spring length and the placement of the lower spring perch is key.

In all cases, once you start running rims/rubber this fat, you can kiss your fender liners goodbye in the front.

Also, 285 means different things to different tire companies. A 285 in BFGoodrich land is super fat compared to other brands of tires. A 285 BFG R1S is as wide as a 305 Pirelli slick......that makes total sense.......
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The Raptors are not great tow vehicles, from what I hear. The suspension and ride height are far from ideal for any sort of regular towing.

I think the tow capacity is 8k on the Raptor, not 10k.
you guys are right, its 8k. i think i got 10k from the standard f150. 8k is still workable.
i'd have to go through my crawler to add some lightness if i wanted to tow it, but she could use a diet. not sure what it weighs, but its probably close to 6k.
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Quick question, we've probably already discussed it in here but is anyone running 11" square with 285/30/18 or is it a lost cause up front?? slicer ??
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dogbone runs those sizes on his E90.
I run 10.5" ET25 Titan7 square. I've never had an 11" rim on my car, so i don't know what the deal there is.

Ultimately, it depends on the suspension and length of spring you use (and how low the car sits)......and if you use a spacer.....and.....what else am i forgetting.....oh yeah....camber.....and....yeah.....a lot of things affect what setup you can run in the front.

As far as I know, a 285 does not fit on stock suspension on the front. And something tells me that the 11" rim is a problem on stock front suspension too.

Aftermarket, you have some options, but again spring length and the placement of the lower spring perch is key.

In all cases, once you start running rims/rubber this fat, you can kiss your fender liners goodbye in the front.

Also, 285 means different things to different tire companies. A 285 in BFGoodrich land is super fat compared to other brands of tires. A 285 BFG R1S is as wide as a 305 Pirelli slick......that makes total sense.......
I agree with most of what you wrote - however stock suspension has more clearance than most aftermarket suspension as the spring is progressive and the perch sits completely above the tire. The only aftermarket suspension that has more space is one with short springs and a strut diameter less than stock.

If you can fit a 305, you should be able to fit an 11" wheel. The reality is that your 305 tire is wider than your 10.5" wheel. Therefore an 11" wheel isn't going to make a drastic difference in fitment. The wider wheel will better support the sidewall.


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AR Motorsports has just started building some custom 3" brake ducts for my e46 M3 with S62 GT2 car. With the stock inline six the custom AP Racing BBK was just amazing. But the car is now 20 mph faster on the straights and the brakes are barely doing their job. Basically screaming for mercy. Hopefully this helps enough. If not we will have to build a custom bracket/caliper holder to convert a 372mm for my car. AP Essex only make a 355mm kit for the e46 M3.
Sounds like you need some fans - are you already using two hoses per side?
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AR Motorsports has just started building some custom 3" brake ducts for my e46 M3 with S62 GT2 car. With the stock inline six the custom AP Racing BBK was just amazing. But the car is now 20 mph faster on the straights and the brakes are barely doing their job. Basically screaming for mercy. Hopefully this helps enough. If not we will have to build a custom bracket/caliper holder to convert a 372mm for my car. AP Essex only make a 355mm kit for the e46 M3.
Sounds like you need some fans - are you already using two hoses per side?
We didn't use ducts originally because we were looking for max front downforce. The 3" ducts should help but am unsure if it will be enough. Current GT2 rules allow one brake duct fan per corner. I am guessing that fans are used more commonly used with GT1/TA and TA2 cars were their wheels are typically small. I my situation we can fit a larger rotor inside the 18" wheel and would most likely be our next step. I also have a Tilton pedal box with brake bias control/nob. So there is also the need to get that dialed in. Hopefully I get a chance to test in the next month or so.
*We have changed master cylinder sizes twice this year. Plus had two ABS modules w/CSL tune that were bad. FYI Yokohama slicks are expensive to flat spot.
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What would you guys suggest for seating? I found that my last track day I was having some bad back pain from the bolster digging into my side and having to brace hard for left turns. I wanted to get a fixed back bucket (OMP TRS-E XL) but I was reading I would need a hans device to use a 5 point harness correctly.

I don't want to spend too much money on the car right now, I just want seat time until next year (building a house ATM). Any tips?
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How do we feel about tracking a 275 mounted to a 10.5" wheel - it looks like its stretched too much IMO - don't want the tire to come off the bead on a hard corner - my old set up I ran 275 on a 10" wheel.
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Aww crap I didn't know a fellow m3post'r was gonna be there. Did you see me in the Interlagos Blue E92? Was my first track day and man it was great. Learned a lot and already planning my next one!
I remember seeing one, yeah. How did it go?



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What would you guys suggest for seating? I found that my last track day I was having some bad back pain from the bolster digging into my side and having to brace hard for left turns. I wanted to get a fixed back bucket (OMP TRS-E XL) but I was reading I would need a hans device to use a 5 point harness correctly.

I don't want to spend too much money on the car right now, I just want seat time until next year (building a house ATM). Any tips?
Find a local race shop that stocks lots of seats. Go sit in them all...for like 20 minutes each. And yes, if you're going to run harnesses, get a HNR.



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How do we feel about tracking a 275 mounted to a 10.5" wheel - it looks like its stretched too much IMO - don't want the tire to come off the bead on a hard corner - my old set up I ran 275 on a 10" wheel.
It will look stretched versus a 10", yes. Supporting the tire is key and a 10.5" on a 275 isn't too bad. Nitto shows you can run up to an 11" wheel on a 275-width NT01, for example.
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Aww crap I didn't know a fellow m3post'r was gonna be there. Did you see me in the Interlagos Blue E92? Was my first track day and man it was great. Learned a lot and already planning my next one!
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What would you guys suggest for seating? I found that my last track day I was having some bad back pain from the bolster digging into my side and having to brace hard for left turns. I wanted to get a fixed back bucket (OMP TRS-E XL) but I was reading I would need a hans device to use a 5 point harness correctly.

I don't want to spend too much money on the car right now, I just want seat time until next year (building a house ATM). Any tips?
Find a local race shop that stocks lots of seats. Go sit in them all...for like 20 minutes each. And yes, if you're going to run harnesses, get a HNR.



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How do we feel about tracking a 275 mounted to a 10.5" wheel - it looks like its stretched too much IMO - don't want the tire to come off the bead on a hard corner - my old set up I ran 275 on a 10" wheel.
It will look stretched versus a 10", yes. Supporting the tire is key and a 10.5" on a 275 isn't too bad. Nitto shows you can run up to an 11" wheel on a 275-width NT01, for example.
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How do we feel about tracking a 275 mounted to a 10.5" wheel - it looks like its stretched too much IMO - don't want the tire to come off the bead on a hard corner - my old set up I ran 275 on a 10" wheel.
It depends on the tire. The specs should list the range of rim width and optimal width.
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How do we feel about tracking a 275 mounted to a 10.5" wheel - it looks like its stretched too much IMO - don't want the tire to come off the bead on a hard corner - my old set up I ran 275 on a 10" wheel.
It depends on the tire. The specs should list the range of rim width and optimal width.
Dunlop Direzza ZIII

I looked for specs - but none seem to exist
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Almost every 275/35-18 on the market is 9-11” rim width range
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What would you guys suggest for seating? I found that my last track day I was having some bad back pain from the bolster digging into my side and having to brace hard for left turns. I wanted to get a fixed back bucket (OMP TRS-E XL) but I was reading I would need a hans device to use a 5 point harness correctly.

I don't want to spend too much money on the car right now, I just want seat time until next year (building a house ATM). Any tips?
I am an all or nothing type of guy. Either leave it OEM or go all out. I'm not willing to half ass seats and safety. If you want a seat then at least a half cage , six point harness, Hans, Hans seat.
FYI I drive my street car with OEM seats, OEM three point belts with Hoosier R7. It's really not that big of a deal.
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How do we feel about tracking a 275 mounted to a 10.5" wheel - it looks like its stretched too much IMO - don't want the tire to come off the bead on a hard corner - my old set up I ran 275 on a 10" wheel.
It depends on the tire. The specs should list the range of rim width and optimal width.
Dunlop Direzza ZIII

I looked for specs - but none seem to exist
Tire rack lists the specs. 9"-11"
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How do we feel about tracking a 275 mounted to a 10.5" wheel - it looks like its stretched too much IMO - don't want the tire to come off the bead on a hard corner - my old set up I ran 275 on a 10" wheel.
It depends on the tire. The specs should list the range of rim width and optimal width.
Dunlop Direzza ZIII

I looked for specs - but none seem to exist
Tire rack lists the specs. 9"-11"
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Dunlop Direzza ZIII

I looked for specs - but none seem to exist

The Tire Rack website indicates the DZ3 in 275/35R18 will work on a 9-11" wheel, with 9.5" being ideal.

What's interesting is that tire in 285/30R18 only shows 9.5-10.5" with ideal being 10".


FYI this took me all of 60 seconds to find.
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I am an all or nothing type of guy. Either leave it OEM or go all out. I'm not willing to half ass seats and safety. If you want a seat then at least a half cage , six point harness, Hans, Hans seat.
FYI I drive my street car with OEM seats, OEM three point belts with Hoosier R7. It's really not that big of a deal.
Maybe you're a smaller guy and fit in the OEM seats better but I know for me at 6'4 260, its not fun after a few sessions. I do agree about not wanting to "half ass" it but it would also be nice to know what you guys have done. I am sure everyone didn't just go full cage and hans at once. That would be something like 4-5k for everything and that is a big step into the "racecar" territory.
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How do we feel about tracking a 275 mounted to a 10.5" wheel - it looks like its stretched too much IMO - don't want the tire to come off the bead on a hard corner - my old set up I ran 275 on a 10" wheel.
The tire will actually perform better on a 10.5. The wider wheel will provide better sidewall support and a slightly wider tread width. I think a 275 on a 10.5 is great.
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I am an all or nothing type of guy. Either leave it OEM or go all out. I'm not willing to half ass seats and safety. If you want a seat then at least a half cage , six point harness, Hans, Hans seat.
FYI I drive my street car with OEM seats, OEM three point belts with Hoosier R7. It's really not that big of a deal.
Maybe you're a smaller guy and fit in the OEM seats better but I know for me at 6'4 260, its not fun after a few sessions. I do agree about not wanting to "half ass" it but it would also be nice to know what you guys have done. I am sure everyone didn't just go full cage and hans at once. That would be something like 4-5k for everything and that is a big step into the "racecar" territory.
There's definitely some debate on this but I think a decent interim step is the Schroth QFP harnesses paired with a seat that fits you properly. You can add a crotch strap to make the QFP a 5 point. Also get a form of HANS device. The reality is a Hans can be life saving and should be a priority over other mods.
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