Do not drive a GT3!!

[IDreamOfEvos]

Went for a canyon blast with a friend who just picked up a 2007 GT3. He asked if I wanted to drive it and I of course said yes. Huge mistake.

Absolutely phenom. Amazing car. Glued to the road. A purposeful machine. The only other car I'd want if I didn't drive an E90 M3 6MT.

How can I get my M3 to handle like a GT3?!?!

[E90ab335i]

You can't. You have no choice now but to sell your E90 and go balls deep with a GT3.

[USCTrojanMan29]

Originally Posted by E90ab335i

You can't. You have no choice now but to sell your E90 and go balls deep with a GT3.

+1 Once you go GT3 you never go back. Speaking of that, I'm selling my GT3, see the link below...

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...8#post15216668

[quicktwinturbo]

Originally Posted by IDreamOfEvos

How can I get my M3 to handle like a GT3?!?!

Buy a nissan... GTArghhh

[Haywood]

Originally Posted by quicktwinturbo

Buy a nissan... GTArghhh

Here we go again.

[quicktwinturbo]

Originally Posted by Haywood

Here we go again.

[pkimM3r]

Originally Posted by E90ab335i

You can't. You have no choice now but to sell your E90 and go balls deep with a GT3.

Its possible. But by then youre prob in gt3 $€£¥ territory lol.

[Wolfinwolfsclothing]

Originally Posted by pkim1079

Its possible. But by then youre prob in gt3 $€£¥ territory lol.

Not going to happen. Even the m3 gts which was the ultimate and was reworked a lot, despite being a 2010 was no match for even a 2006 GT3 in a straight or on track. The 997.2 GT3 embarrassed it even more and that's not even getting into the RS or 4.0.
And the GTS was more expensive than a standard GT3. There's no way you're going to get an m3 to be GT3 caliber of car.

[pkimM3r]

Originally Posted by Wolfinwolfsclothing

Not going to happen. Even the m3 gts which was the ultimate and was reworked a lot, despite being a 2010 was no match for even a 2006 GT3 in a straight or on track. The 997.2 GT3 embarrassed it even more and that's not even getting into the RS or 4.0.
And the GTS was more expensive than a standard GT3. There's no way you're going to get an m3 to be GT3 caliber of car.

He said if its possible to modify it to be. We're not talking is there a factory m3 out there.

Im pretty sure some of these race cars out there handle better than a gt3.

Correction. You can but then youll be in lambo/ferrari territory lol.

Im also pretty sure that some ppl on here have m3s that will out handle a gts anyday. Now that 4.4L is a diiferent story.

[Wolfinwolfsclothing]

Originally Posted by pkim1079

Im pretty sure some of these race cars out there handle better than a gt3.

Correction. You can but then youll be in lambo/ferrari territory lol.

Im also pretty sure that some ppl on here have m3s that will out handle a gts anyday. Now that 4.4L is a diiferent story.

Not sure i agree. The GT3 is prob the best out there. And with the 991 even more so.
That's why the GT3 won all the best drivers car and best of the best comparos over the 458 and maclaren. It's simply that good and that's an understatement. It's about as close to perfect as you get in a drivers car.

[pkimM3r]

Originally Posted by Wolfinwolfsclothing

Not sure i agree. The GT3 is prob the best out there. And with the 991 even more so.
That's why the GT3 won all the best drivers car and best of the best comparos over the 458 and maclaren. It's simply that good and that's an understatement. It's about as close to perfect as you get in a drivers car.

So a production car is now better than all track focused cars? So the turner m3 doesnt drive as good as a gt3? LOL

[GreeKon]

Originally Posted by Lute

Lolzzzz love that part.

[Wolfinwolfsclothing]

Originally Posted by pkim1079

So a production car is now better than all track focused cars? So the turner m3 doesnt drive as good as a gt3? LOL

GT3 is a pretty track focused car…homologation car.

It is an Ariel Atom, no, but no street production car is.

The turner M3 isn't a street legal car. Lets compare it to a GT3 Cup and the answer Id venture to say is still that it can't compare without ever having been in a turner m3, but have a friend who owns a GT3 Cup.

[ki__]

Sell the M3 and buy a 997.2 GT3

[pkimM3r]

Originally Posted by Wolfinwolfsclothing

GT3 is a pretty track focused car…homologation car.

It is an Ariel Atom, no, but no street production car is.

The turner M3 isn't a street legal car. Lets compare it to a GT3 Cup and the answer Id venture to say is still that it can't compare without ever having been in a turner m3, but have a friend who owns a GT3 Cup.

I understand your points and i agree as well. But to mod an m3 to get to what a stock gt3 can do i would say is possible. Of course the amount of money will prob be a waste. I personally wouldnt and hence why i said the money pit would be in the "rather buy a gt3 instead" category.

[pkimM3r]

Originally Posted by Wolfinwolfsclothing

GT3 is a pretty track focused car…homologation car.

It is an Ariel Atom, no, but no street production car is.

The turner M3 isn't a street legal car. Lets compare it to a GT3 Cup and the answer Id venture to say is still that it can't compare without ever having been in a turner m3, but have a friend who owns a GT3 Cup.

Oops sorry. Meant a dedicated track build.

I personally want to own a gt3 and drive the snot out of it for a while during this lifetime!

[Longboarder]

If you can daily the 997.2 and prev gen GT3s or better yet if it can be your second or third car, then go for it. I'd wait for the 991 with the PDK-S. F'ing insane and can be your daily!. Unfortunately the few that are available because the potential owners backed out are being sold for over MSRP. One dealer right now is asking $176K for a white/black which is what I'd like

[F1Venom]

The 991 GT3 is so amazing. I wouldn't even look at the 997 GT3 anymore because of it.

[Soorena]

Originally Posted by F1Venom

The 991 GT3 is so amazing. I wouldn't even look at the 997 GT3 anymore because of it.

It's PDK only. Porsche did a huge mistake by not offering a manual.

OP get a 997.2 GT3. It's suspension is a carry over from the GT2 and while it feels racier, surprisingly it's also better for DD. Not as relaxed as a E90 though, however everything can be a DD it's just the driver that needs to adjust.

[ki__]

Originally Posted by Soorena

It's PDK only. Porsche did a huge mistake by not offering a manual.

Agreed. It could have been the best to both worlds.

[Brosef]

Originally Posted by Wolfinwolfsclothing

GT3 is a pretty track focused car…homologation car.

It is an Ariel Atom, no, but no street production car is.

The turner M3 isn't a street legal car. Lets compare it to a GT3 Cup and the answer Id venture to say is still that it can't compare without ever having been in a turner m3, but have a friend who owns a GT3 Cup.

dude, you really need to chill out and ease off the hyperbole. Porsche's aren't without competition.

we have a member on here that just posted a n'ring lap time of 7:37 in his e92. he's no pro driver, it wasn't a closed off course (he encountered traffic) and his car isn't modified with anything crazy (no supercharger or significant HP mods). that's pretty damn impressive, and I believe that's faster than a 997.2 GT3. I'd say that speaks to his capabilities as a driver first and the greatness of the e9x M3 platform second.

and quit bitching about the M3 GTS not besting the GT3. if all BMW cared about was lap times and keeping you from posting snarky remarks about it, they would have put much bigger and stickier rubber on it. but that wasn't their intent. they aimed to create a car that handles extremely well at the limit and is much more approachable than a 911, which is so incredibly unforgiving that I don't see myself buying another one for a long time. I think you, and others (you're not alone), frequently make the mistake of calling an unforgiving car a "driver's" car. a chassis that is difficult to handle should not be considered a virtue. hell, I could build a car that is difficult to handle, but I wouldn't be proud of it. I'd much sooner praise a car that is forgiving and easy and fun to handle at the limits (which is far more difficult to achieve). that's what we're all about here, isn't it? none of us are pro drivers - we're talking about road cars used for occasional track days.

[klammer]

Originally Posted by Brosef

dude, you really need to chill out and ease off the hyperbole. Porsche's aren't without competition.

we have a member on here that just posted a n'ring lap time of 7:37 in his e92. he's no pro driver, it wasn't a closed off course (he encountered traffic) and his car isn't modified with anything crazy (no supercharger or significant HP mods). that's pretty damn impressive, and I believe that's faster than a 997.2 GT3. I'd say that speaks to his capabilities as a driver first and the greatness of the e9x M3 platform second.

and quit bitching about the M3 GTS not besting the GT3. if all BMW cared about was lap times and keeping you from posting snarky remarks about it, they would have put much bigger and stickier rubber on it. but that wasn't their intent. they aimed to create a car that handles extremely well at the limit and is much more approachable than a 911, which is so incredibly unforgiving that I don't see myself buying another one for a long time. I think you, and others (you're not alone), frequently make the mistake of calling an unforgiving car a "driver's" car. a chassis that is difficult to handle should not be considered a virtue. hell, I could build a car that is difficult to handle, but I wouldn't be proud of it. I'd much sooner praise a car that is forgiving and easy and fun to handle at the limits (which is far more difficult to achieve). that's what we're all about here, isn't it? none of us are pro drivers - we're talking about road cars used for occasional track days.

+1