Rear Spherical Bearings Conversion on Stock Arms

Rochen_00 · 01-23-2021, 01:52 PM

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I've been good this year so Santa dropped by with the rest of the goodies for this conversion.

Meyle 3147100005 Bearings (Item B)

Meyle with tapered washer

A question, why add a tapered washer to the meyle bearing? What is its function?

bbnks2 · 01-23-2021, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochen_00

A question, why add a tapered washer to the meyle bearing? What is its function?

the spindle is conical... the bearings won't bolt up to the spindle properly. The washer fills in the conical seat of the spindle so the bearings mounts flush. I have 25 sets of washers coming in in a few weeks.

Redd · 01-23-2021, 06:00 PM

That's right. You can see the conical face clearly in the pic below. The tapered washer is needed to allow the bearing to mate up to the spindle properly.

tlrid3r · 01-25-2021, 01:19 AM

Anyone have any luck finding more bearings. I got my adapters but cant get bearings

Move Over · 01-25-2021, 08:10 AM

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Anyone have any luck finding more bearings. I got my adapters but cant get bearings

Check rock auto, that's where I got mine.

tlrid3r · 01-25-2021, 08:34 AM

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Anyone have any luck finding more bearings. I got my adapters but cant get bearings

Check rock auto, that's where I got mine.

Do you perhaps now the part number on rockauto. I can't seem to find it.

bbnks2 · 01-25-2021, 09:13 AM

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Anyone have any luck finding more bearings. I got my adapters but cant get bearings

I just bought a bunch of wishbones for about $10-15 per piece. Find local part outs and watch ebay/make offers. People part out 335i or 328i on facebook marketplace all the time and just throw the stock arms away because they are worthless. should be able to source 8 wishbones for ~$100 cash to someone.

Redd · 01-25-2021, 09:51 AM

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I just bought a bunch of wishbones for about $10-15 per piece. Find local part outs and watch ebay/make offers. People part out 335i or 328i on facebook marketplace all the time and just throw the stock arms away because they are worthless. should be able to source 8 wishbones for ~$100 cash to someone.

335i wishbones are stamped steel with rubber bushes on both ends. Not sure how they would be useful here.

Move Over · 01-25-2021, 10:02 AM

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Anyone have any luck finding more bearings. I got my adapters but cant get bearings

Check rock auto, that's where I got mine.

Do you perhaps now the part number on rockauto. I can't seem to find it.

3067901

Move Over · 01-25-2021, 10:04 AM

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Anyone have any luck finding more bearings. I got my adapters but cant get bearings

Check rock auto, that's where I got mine.

Do you perhaps now the part number on rockauto. I can't seem to find it.

There's a couple EBay ads that have them in stock

bbnks2 · 01-25-2021, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Redd

335i wishbones are stamped steel with rubber bushes on both ends. Not sure how they would be useful here.

no the wishbone has a spherical at one end. the guide rod is rubber both ends.

if I am wrong about it working then I'll be getting back to you soon lol

ornicar · 01-25-2021, 12:31 PM

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Anyone have any luck finding more bearings. I got my adapters but cant get bearings

I just bought a bunch of wishbones for about $10-15 per piece. Find local part outs and watch ebay/make offers. People part out 335i or 328i on facebook marketplace all the time and just throw the stock arms away because they are worthless. should be able to source 8 wishbones for ~$100 cash to someone.

Good idea!

It is exactly what i have done with x4 old arms that i have in stock

good oem quality stuff.

derbo · 01-25-2021, 12:45 PM

This is the ebay link I use to get a set of 4. I ordered during black friday, and my shipment got held up for about 2months..lol It looks like the price always went up $5 per bushing.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Lemford...-/273447437242

DRLane · 01-25-2021, 12:57 PM

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This is the ebay link I use to get a set of 4. I ordered during black friday, and my shipment got held up for about 2months..lol It looks like the price always went up $5 per bushing.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Lemford...-/273447437242

I ordered those as well. Took a long time to ship.

M43S7RO · 01-25-2021, 06:03 PM

Does the sleeve for the camber arm slide pretty tight into the subframe? I considered this route with mine but opted for the powerflex black due to not wanting to deal with welding. The powerflex sleeve is held in place with loctite 640. Wonder if the bw can be held in place with the same.

Great job on the install!

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Got all the new arms with sphericals installed with no issues. The blue circlips are Meyle bearings. Replaced the camber arm outboard bearings with new Lemforders as there was play at 137k kms. Camber arm inboards are BW Camber Arm Bearing Kit.

'While I was there' I also did rear wheel bearings, ECS trailing arms, Powerflex Street (Yellow) rear shock mounts, and also recond the half shafts since some of the CV boots were torn. So basically a whole rear end refresh.

Then we discovered that the power steering rack was leaking so I had to get that done, too. Car's still up in the air waiting for the rack. Can't wait to drive it!

Redd · 01-25-2021, 06:19 PM

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no the wishbone has a spherical at one end. the guide rod is rubber both ends.

if I am wrong about it working then I'll be getting back to you soon lol

Interesting! Learned something new today. That's a good idea!

Redd · 01-25-2021, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by M43S7RO

Does the sleeve for the camber arm slide pretty tight into the subframe? I considered this route with mine but opted for the powerflex black due to not wanting to deal with welding. The powerflex sleeve is held in place with loctite 640. Wonder if the bw can be held in place with the same.

Great job on the install!

The BW camber arm bearing sleeve slides easily by hand into the subframe, there's almost no resistance. I know someone here just used Loctite retaining compound to secure it without welding, but it was loose enough that I didn't trust Loctite alone to do the job so I had it tack welded in the end.

tlrid3r · 01-25-2021, 06:46 PM

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Anyone have any luck finding more bearings. I got my adapters but cant get bearings

Check rock auto, that's where I got mine.

Do you perhaps now the part number on rockauto. I can't seem to find it.

3067901

Wow didn't act fast. I went to work just checked all sold out.

atopa2002 · 01-25-2021, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by M43S7RO

Does the sleeve for the camber arm slide pretty tight into the subframe? I considered this route with mine but opted for the powerflex black due to not wanting to deal with welding. The powerflex sleeve is held in place with loctite 640. Wonder if the bw can be held in place with the same.

Great job on the install!

I used the Loctite retaining compound for mine BW kit and still holding tight after about 4 track days and about 7,000miles

This post also used the loctite to retain the sleeve.
https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...0&postcount=12

M43S7RO · 01-25-2021, 10:24 PM

Great, thanks for the info!

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I used the Loctite retaining compound for mine BW kit and still holding tight after about 4 track days and about 7,000miles

This post also used the loctite to retain the sleeve.
https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...0&postcount=12

P1zzaboy · 01-26-2021, 07:41 PM

Nice thread!

Once all bushings are eliminated with this method, would there still be an advantage to go with full arm kits like SPL?

Move Over · 01-26-2021, 08:55 PM

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Nice thread!

Once all bushings are eliminated with this method, would there still be an advantage to go with full arm kits like SPL?

The SPL arms offer a bit more adjustment, but I'll admit if I would have seen this offering before I did my full SPL build, I would have done these!

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