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I completely agree with your post. I think pretty much all the best sounding cars have high-revving V8/V10/V12s. The sound is just unbeatable. Muscular low end rumble combined with high-revving scream. |
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08-30-2009, 12:52 AM | #68 |
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Inexperience? Wow, coming from someone that drives a diesel across the pond really means something. I don't need to hear or learn about so & so before sharing my experience/opinion, this is an online forum. Jeremy Clarkson said cocks drive Audi's, I think I have to write to BBC and inform him that cocks drive Jaguar's also.
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08-30-2009, 12:55 AM | #69 |
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No no, what I meant was to experience what Porsche is famous for, you've gotta get yourself a 911. Mid-engined cars are very balanced in various situations, but the prime candidate in that setup would be the Exiege S, just my 2 cents.
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08-30-2009, 04:06 AM | #71 | |
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You will find that I ran an M3 for a year, only getting rid a few weeks ago, I have also owned a number of Porsches, sporty Audis, Lotus, I use to rally and cut my teeth in Karting. My experience isn't in question but yours really and truly is, and the reason for that is your inability to knowledge that the Cayman isn't a proper Porsche because even their chief tester and the man who signs off their products rates it Porsche's best drivers car. I'm not going to lower myself by calling you the very thing you called me but you are making yourself look extremely stupid by your comments. |
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It's funny, I see a lot of comments about, "only the GT3 for me, or nothing". And to me, unless you've raced, or have a lot of on-track seat time, you'll never even use the GT3 like it was meant. So it becomes a fashion statement. I've seen plenty of nice GT3/GT3RS at PCA events driven so slow, the guys were well in over their heads. Lotus is a fantastic car, but not a daily driver like a 911/Cayman can be. Last edited by urbo73; 08-30-2009 at 10:14 AM.. |
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08-30-2009, 10:53 AM | #73 | |
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Urbo73, Yes, I did say that. But because of my background, owning/racing few sub 10 seconds street/strip cars, and now the EVO has become a dedicated road race car, regular 911s won't do it for me, and in my case, the GT3 or the Turbo couple are my only choices from Porsche. To lots of people out there, regular 911s are fine, maybe even the Cayman S, but I guess I'm the abnormal one on this forum, but I don't think I need to get to that now, do I? |
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08-30-2009, 12:48 PM | #75 | |
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Sorry mate but based on your comments that is the impression you are giving people and according to the other posts directed at your comments then everyone is in agreement with me. Also though I doubt Walter posts here I bet he would have a good laugh at your expense. P.S. I have nothing against drag racing but to use that as a defence for your knowledge on what makes a great drivers car? It may be great for knowing what makes a great car for acceleration but only proper track experience gives true understanding as to what makes cars like the Cayman so special. And with the among of group test wins under it's belt it appears that every roadtester in the world is in agreement. |
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08-30-2009, 03:33 PM | #77 | |
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P.S. Yeah, Pat Long is very good, for an American - only joking . But for me one of Porsche's greatest drivers was Jackie Ickx but if we were to open this debate up and include all drivers throughout the years and not only ones who happen to have driven for Porsche then my vote would go to either Graham Hill or Jim Clark. |
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08-30-2009, 03:45 PM | #78 | |
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When comparing the Cayman to the 911 it's easy to understand why the Cayman is the better driver's car. The 911 is totally unbalanced in comparison, yes it can be driven very quickly but it's not the kind of car you man-handle through a corner, preferring to enter slow and exit quick, much like an Audi quattro car but for different reasons. If you are the type of people that relish a challenge then there is no doubt the 911 will give you the greater thrill taming the beast than the Cayman ever could but as a better handling car the 911 comes second best to the Cayman, as does quite a lot of cars including the M3. |
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08-30-2009, 04:02 PM | #79 |
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08-30-2009, 04:35 PM | #80 |
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Thanks, for the tips on braking and driving techniques!
Great site this only ruined by the armchair magazine reading brigade who base their opinions on opinions like jeremy clarkson who hates porsches by the way. Or people who class themselves as acomplished drivers who have no experience in proper driving or competition driving. Like people have said everyone is entitled to an opinion and thats fair enough. I never said the cayman i had was a bad car,quite the opposite as i enjoyed all the 20000 miles in her! I have also driven the cayman s 2009 spec and agree it is an improvement |
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As for brakes on the m3 they are sh_t in comparison to its competition,and fair play to porsche and audi for getting it right.
the porsche cayman and gt3 both weigh about 1340kg and come equipped with 4 pot and 6 pot brakes as standard and these ar good enough for road and track use. The audi rs4 gets 8 pot calipers and weigh in at around 1620kg so once again do the job on road and track. On u tube under autocar m3 vs gt3 vs gtr chris harris uses his own m3 on the test and does an outlap to warm up and a timed lap and at then end of the timed lap the m3 s brakes had completely gone.chris harris is not the greatest driver of all time but an extremely competent tester on road and track. For a car that weighs approx 1550kg and has a 414 bhp v8 under the bonnet but only gets the abismal excuse for breaks tha are on the m3 it is a p_ss take. That said i love the new m3. My discs were warped and have now been skimmed.They are soon to be upgraded to 380mm discs and the audi 8 pot calipers. |
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All thes type of cars are apparently tested at the ring,and are sold in the knowledge that most owners even if just once will take them on track.
So the cars should be able to be driven in anger and take it. A friend of mine is a service manager for porsche and has owned and driven and raced every type or porsche,but his favourite drivers car was the csl! Ya pays your money and takes your choice. |
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Sure, the M3 is the only thing I'm able to afford, I guess my other cars are models of fantasy land. I wouldn't use my screen name if I don't have more than 5 fully registered & insured cars now, would I?
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Why don't you take a road trip up to NYC and see how full of it you are? My lack of knowledge, lolz!!! Boy, I bet you'd never really been around cars and being an internet muscle is probably your greatest accomplishment to date.
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i don't realy care for the m5/m6. same reason why i don't care for the regular 911 or cayman s. Just their look alone killed any intention to even test drive these car for me. |
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