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04-14-2009, 07:27 PM | #1 |
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Dyno of Fabspeed cats, X-pipe, and ECU tune
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Just picked up my car, 2009 E90, from Fabspeed. They installed their high flow 200 cell cats (HQ German units that do not code), Xpipe with resonators, and custom dyno tuned ECU. I already had the Active Autowerks pulley and air filter. Stock mufflers. 93 octane pump gas. 1600 miles on the motor. The car baselined at 350 rwhp. After the work, it dynoed at 383 rwhp. Plus there is a massive torque increase under the curve. Unfortunately, it is raining today and I was unable to test her out. I can say that it is really really responsive and it took a lot of willpower to not tempt fate. LOL It definately sounds much healthier but not really any louder in normal cruising. Maybe a db or so.... But, when you floor it, it barks. Next week my Eisenmann Sport shows up to complete the package. [u2b]<object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/3UtEXn-CXWw&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/3UtEXn-CXWw&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object>[/u2b] |
04-14-2009, 09:10 PM | #5 |
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very nice!
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04-14-2009, 10:11 PM | #6 |
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Good #'s, congrats, who did the ECU tune? PES?
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04-14-2009, 10:21 PM | #8 |
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Thanks! Yes... What do you know about PES? I do know that Fabspeed and PES are close to each other and that Fabspeed does dyno tune the ECU in collaboration with PES. I did not witness the dyno tuning though. I would have liked that.
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04-14-2009, 10:50 PM | #9 |
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My car was the first to get the 200 cell cats and X pipe. They have not finalized a retail price for that. However, the number being discussed is less than AA cats/xpipe for instance. And that is with the HJS high quality cats.
I believe they get around $625 for just the Xpipe. |
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04-14-2009, 11:00 PM | #10 |
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Hey is it possible to meet up this weekend so i can hear how the car sounds in person? how far r u from the city?
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04-14-2009, 11:31 PM | #11 |
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Unfortunately for you, I am very close to the city..... Philadelphia that is!
You are more than welcome to check the car out. I'll be installing the Eisenmann Sport in a week or two when it arrives. |
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04-15-2009, 12:32 AM | #12 |
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That is a phenomenal torque gain.
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04-15-2009, 06:13 AM | #14 |
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Yea, they're doing a custom tune on their dyno. To me this is far better than packing up your ECU and sending out for a generic tune.
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04-15-2009, 01:19 PM | #15 |
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Damn rain.....
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Is this a true X pipe?... looks like a stamped H pipe similar to the factory design and Encore's Design..
X pipes have sharp inside edges.... these look like a commercially stamped design incorporated into an exhaust system (notice the welds before and after the 'H) meaning it would not have the same "extraction" affect of a true X pipe... and is obviously much cheaper to make... btw, a 200 cell cat is freer than our 300 cell cat ( only makes sense, cells per square inch ) means it should easily turn on the CEL. The "High Quality" portion is misleading since we certainly arent using "low quality" being ours are 300 cell. Interesting read from quick google search: Important quotes highlighted below link.. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...l?forum_id=101 http://www.f150forum.com/showthread.php?t=12336 Quote:
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04-15-2009, 02:15 PM | #17 | |
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Omar, I do appreciate the help you have given me and I want to be clear that I was an inch away from getting your complete setup, until I found out about the coding. I can say that Fabspeed has huge experience with Bosch DME and exotic cars. They use really expensive German made cats. They have never had a code. They both guaranteed it to me, as well as being local I can turn off the rear sensor if need be with just a 30 minute drive. This was the deal sealer. I refused to have to R&R the ECU to take care of OBD issues.
I will certainly keep everyone updated regarding any coding. The numbers from the Xpipe look very good. They have other cars they have done and I would not call their work or design inferior in any way. I am not sure you are looking at the same X piece if you would call that an "H"! It is a very smooth X. Clearly not a 90 degree H. Quote:
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Looks like an X to me. Not that your system is not beautiful, but your price is outrageous and you must tune the ECU for yours to not get a code. The difference between the X you see pictured here and the X in your design can only be minimal at best (if at all).
I'm also curious about your cats being high quality. I've asked numerous times for more info on them. CFM comparisons mainly or if they are a ceramic or metal matrix cat. I've never gotten answers on either. How come yours produce codes? Quote:
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04-15-2009, 02:40 PM | #19 |
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Omar - Not that what you're saying is incorrect, but does it matter? The results show that regardless of it being a "true" X-pipe, it is quite effective.
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The cat has a CFM of 578 and is metallic. We have tested both 200 cell and 300 cell cats which both produce codes on the E46 M3 and E9X M3, same goes for SS HFC. |
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04-15-2009, 02:54 PM | #21 |
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Do you know the OEM cat CFM?
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