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11-03-2009, 06:57 AM | #397 |
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No, the complaint letters should go to BMW. They could have made a more track oriented car for sale in the US if they wanted to.
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The primary reason the M engineers increased the displacement to 4.4 lilters, was to shore up the bottom end TORQUE. (from the factory output of 295lb/ft.) This bump in displacement also allows the engine to create additional power without rasing the rev limiter to 9000 rpms which would reduce the lifespan of the power plant. I was told in August, that the estimated torque output goal was 330 lb/ft., which is slightly more than the new 997 GT3. (the M divisions primary target) The weight reduction comes from: the removal of sound deadening materials, lightweight doors, lightweight exhaust system, radio delete, lightweight tires and wheels, rear seat delete, lightweight front racing seats, lightweight suspension components, lightweight battery, and a few exterior body panels.( I did not get the details on which body panels were changed, or what materials they used to reduce the weight.
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I am fully aware that different markets get different pricing schemes, and cars in the US market tend to be pretty cheap compared to Europe and Asia.
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11-03-2009, 07:33 AM | #401 | |
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If the tables were turned, and it were a US-only version offered, then it wouldn't make sense to create an EU version. The cost of complying with US vs. EU requirements are not fundamentally different, but each has different requirements for certification.
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QUESTION: With only 25 units/year, would this car even qualify as a "production vehicle" for the purposes of competition sanctioning? I confess that I am not up to date, but in previous times, there were homologation rules that required at least a 100 or more cars to be produced to qualify as a production vehicle.
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If most people won't or can't buy it, then we would they sell it? And granted there will always be some people that buy everything, but that is besides the general irony of someone who has no intention of buying something complaining that it isn't available. No offense towards you, just the argument is flawed.
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11-03-2009, 08:37 AM | #407 |
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Lame for two reasons:
1. not coming to the USA 2. even if it were, at that price point you can get a GT3.
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Going with the GT3 and already having an e93 M3, you get the best of both worlds. However, I hope that the new M3 GT will bring a host of BMW performance parts to the market. I wouldn't mind buying a few BMW performance parts for my M3 (i.e., brakes, intake, exhaust, etc...). -SZ |
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OK. Now we know that there will be a street version of the M3 GT4. But to me it seems more than that, as the M3 GT4 race version is just a stock M3 ripped off. To me this M3 GT or GT4 seems to be a real M3 CSL. But then why don't they call it CSL?
Then, why is it so difficult for BMW to build CSL's and a supercar? Mercedes AMG does so many Black Series, SLK, CLK, SL, and they yet plan an E-Coupé BS and an SLS BS? Is it because no one will buy it? Can anyone explain me why nobody will buy an ///M1 but people buy an R8 V10? |
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I 100% agree with you. If I knew that an M car was coming out to compete with the likes of the R8 V10. I would sell my M3 now and start saving!
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Guys, please realize that everything is just HEARSAY so far. There are quite a few specs including the price that does not make sense. Lets wait for the official press release before you start flaming BMW!
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11-03-2009, 10:38 AM | #415 |
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If BMW made a mid engine V8 or V10 sports car I would be all over it.
I like my M3 and all, but to be completely honest, the S65 is going to waste in a regular passenger car. Anyone notice the current headline on Bimmerpost? BMW Q3 income down over 70%. Building a sport version of the M3, charging over $100k for it, and then not selling it in the US isn't exactly a formula for improving those numbers.
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Mercedes has the balls to sell the clk63 black here.
Porsche has the balls to sell the gt3/gt3rs here. Ferrari has the balls to sell the Scuderia/CS here. Aston has the balls to sell the DBS here. The management at BMW needs to get their heads out of their asses and quit excluding their biggest market; The US buys more sports car then anyone else in the world.
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We pay it for GT3's & Rs's,so why would we not pay it for a truly special BMW M3?
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