ZCP vs 6MT

SoCalRPM · 07-10-2018, 06:55 PM

When buying or selling an e9x I'm curious to know what everyone would put more "weight" or "stock" into? Which is more valuable?

Like, if everything was the similar between two similarly spec'd cars, which would you think is inherently more valuable - the one with ZCP or 6MT?

ZCP is highly desirable, but 6MT is more rare.

Thoughts?

BOOF-M3 · 07-10-2018, 07:11 PM

You need to add a poll.
Vote: Manual adds more value to the M3.

SoCalRPM · 07-10-2018, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BOOF-M3

Wow, you are really looking to heat things up lol. Personally I think 6MT will trump any other aspect of the car. You can fake 359's and lowering springs but once you decide on 6MT or DCT it's done. You need to add a poll.
Vote: Manual adds more value to the M3

Oh, duh! Poll added

FuzzyPeaches · 07-10-2018, 07:20 PM

Definitely 6MT

spazzyfry123 · 07-10-2018, 07:21 PM

$$$ value as in what is financially worth more?

Or which is more valuable to the soul? Because, I mean, 6MT. Duh.

SoCalRPM · 07-10-2018, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spazzyfry123

$$$ value as in what is financially worth more?

Or which is more valuable to the soul? Because, I mean, 6MT. Duh.

Both! It's a dilemma I found myself in a lot.

Which are people willing to pay more for? Which would you more regret not having?

NeverL8 · 07-10-2018, 07:47 PM

6MT will always be classic...and ZCP is nothing more then a tiny cosmetic change.

SoCalRPM · 07-10-2018, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRussski

6MT will always be classic...and ZCP is nothing more then a tiny cosmetic change.

Save the manuals!

vincE92M3 · 07-10-2018, 09:29 PM

NA V8 plus 6MT just go hand-in-hand. There will never be another M3 like this!

ZCP is certainly a top priority, but far from a deal breaker on our generation M3. Comp pack is far more significant on the f8x platform.

Now that the tech is getting dated, I think many are seeking out models without iDrive.

Last, CF roofs or slick tops over a sunroof.

sibhusz06 · 07-10-2018, 09:33 PM

Not sure why you'd want to give ZCP as much significance as to a stick car, Right now in the used car segment, it seems like the purists are snagging up sticks whether it be a Miata, 911, M3 etc etc. I already own two sticks and after driving both the DCT and stick M3, I opted for the ZCP DCT and find it better for this kind of car, but thats my opinion..

6ixSpd · 07-10-2018, 09:46 PM

How the hell are these two things remotely comparable?

Bartledoo · 07-10-2018, 09:52 PM

The manual transmission in this car kinda sucks (the stock interface with the driver sucks), and it's much slower, and blah blah blah, but I've got to have it for street driving. I tell myself that if it was purely a track car, I'd want a flappy paddle setup if the car had the acceleration of an 11sec or lower quarter mile...But damn being able to screw up your shifting just makes not screwing it all up seem so much more satisfying!

But yea seems odd as hell to compare these featurws.

SoCalRPM · 07-10-2018, 10:33 PM

Apples to oranges, I know! Definitely not comparable features but I was mostly curious what more people would give credence to. Thanks for all the feedback!

jiggz · 07-10-2018, 11:51 PM

I didn't want either of them when I was shopping for mine some years back.

Interesting poll nonetheless!

Gazorpazorpfield · 07-11-2018, 01:54 AM

antonyl · 07-11-2018, 05:06 AM

I have both on my 2013 e92

GRUESOM3 · 07-11-2018, 06:34 AM

definitely 6MT

DSilk · 07-11-2018, 06:57 AM

6MT without a doubt. Adds immeasurably to the enjoyment of driving the car.

spazzyfry123 · 07-11-2018, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Gazorpazorpfield

LOL! I just about snorted out my coffee.

Mr. BMW · 07-11-2018, 07:39 AM

I will never understand why people pay extra for an automatic...

BOOF-M3 · 07-11-2018, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. BMW

I will never understand why people pay extra for an automatic...

When the vehicle is brand new or the after market?

pbonsalb · 07-11-2018, 08:04 AM

My next car will be auto or DCT or PDK and AWD. Faster, puts the power down better, easier to drive in rain and snow. In the past, I was willing to work harder for better performance by driving manual RWD cars, but these days they offer worse performance.

My 08M3 is 6MT, but I’d be just as happy or happier with a DCT.

View Poll Results: Which is more valuable to you?
ZCP	34	20.36%
6MT	133	79.64%
Voters: 167. You may not vote on this poll

07-10-2018, 06:55 PM	#1
SoCalRPM Captain 886 Rep 942 Posts Drives: e92 M3 Join Date: May 2017 Location: LA iTrader: (0)	ZCP vs 6MT When buying or selling an e9x I'm curious to know what everyone would put more "weight" or "stock" into? Which is more valuable? Like, if everything was the similar between two similarly spec'd cars, which would you think is inherently more valuable - the one with ZCP or 6MT? ZCP is highly desirable, but 6MT is more rare. Thoughts?
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07-10-2018, 07:11 PM	#2
BOOF-M3 Brigadier General 4452 Rep 4,014 Posts Drives: 2011 M3 Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Pasadena Florida iTrader: (1)	You need to add a poll. Vote: Manual adds more value to the M3.
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07-10-2018, 07:20 PM	#4
FuzzyPeaches Private First Class 491 Rep 197 Posts Drives: 2011 M3 ZCP Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Atlanta iTrader: (0)	Definitely 6MT
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07-10-2018, 07:47 PM	#7
NeverL8 Captain 523 Rep 743 Posts Drives: Slow Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: SD iTrader: (0)	6MT will always be classic...and ZCP is nothing more then a tiny cosmetic change.
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vincE92M3 Major 564 Rep 1,366 Posts Drives: ///M Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Atlanta, GA iTrader: (3) Garage List '11 E92 M3 [0.00]	NA V8 plus 6MT just go hand-in-hand. There will never be another M3 like this! ZCP is certainly a top priority, but far from a deal breaker on our generation M3. Comp pack is far more significant on the f8x platform. Now that the tech is getting dated, I think many are seeking out models without iDrive. Last, CF roofs or slick tops over a sunroof. __________________ ///My OEM+ Silverstone Stripper
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07-10-2018, 09:33 PM	#10
sibhusz06 Second Lieutenant 109 Rep 234 Posts Drives: 2011 M3, 2012 X35I, 2007 911 Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: DC iTrader: (0)	Not sure why you'd want to give ZCP as much significance as to a stick car, Right now in the used car segment, it seems like the purists are snagging up sticks whether it be a Miata, 911, M3 etc etc. I already own two sticks and after driving both the DCT and stick M3, I opted for the ZCP DCT and find it better for this kind of car, but thats my opinion..
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07-10-2018, 09:46 PM	#11
6ixSpd Save the manuals! 6015 Rep 6,745 Posts Drives: '16 M3, '23 718 Spyder Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: 416 iTrader: (4)	How the hell are these two things remotely comparable? __________________ '16 M3 \| '23 718 Spyder Past: E92 M3, F87 M2, E39 M5, etc
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Bartledoo Driver 2692 Rep 2,714 Posts Drives: 2011 E90 M3 6MT Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Seattle, WA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2023 Corvette Stingray [0.00] 2002 Porsche Boxster [0.00] 2011 E90 M3 [0.00] 2021 Tesla Model Y [0.00]	The manual transmission in this car kinda sucks (the stock interface with the driver sucks), and it's much slower, and blah blah blah, but I've got to have it for street driving. I tell myself that if it was purely a track car, I'd want a flappy paddle setup if the car had the acceleration of an 11sec or lower quarter mile...But damn being able to screw up your shifting just makes not screwing it all up seem so much more satisfying! But yea seems odd as hell to compare these featurws.
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07-10-2018, 10:33 PM	#13
SoCalRPM Captain 886 Rep 942 Posts Drives: e92 M3 Join Date: May 2017 Location: LA iTrader: (0)	Apples to oranges, I know! Definitely not comparable features but I was mostly curious what more people would give credence to. Thanks for all the feedback!
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07-10-2018, 11:51 PM	#14
jiggz Brigadier General 2140 Rep 3,647 Posts Drives: E90 M3\|F15 X5 50i Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Seattle iTrader: (2)	I didn't want either of them when I was shopping for mine some years back. Interesting poll nonetheless!
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07-11-2018, 01:54 AM	#15
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07-11-2018, 05:06 AM	#16
antonyl Enlisted Member 9 Rep 37 Posts Drives: M3 CS Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Melbourne iTrader: (0)	I have both on my 2013 e92
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07-11-2018, 06:34 AM	#17
GRUESOM3 Major 1092 Rep 1,318 Posts Drives: 3 NA cars and 1 Turbo car Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: NJ iTrader: (4)	definitely 6MT Attached Images
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