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      10-08-2018, 10:14 AM   #1
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Brazil Looks like it the next nation to go far right.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-45780176

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Curious to see how this ends. I originally thought there was a zero percent chance that he would win, but it now looks like a possibility.

He is very polarizing, more so than even Trump. Some of his policies are very good and pro business, anti corruption, and pro capitalist. The major concern, however, is that he is very heavily in with the military leaders - and I imagine that many Brazilian citizens have honest concerns about going back to a military junta rule, which is something no one wants.
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1st round of elections.
I doubt he'll win the 2nd round.
But Brazil seems fucked. It seems every govt. they have is corrupt.
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He will win in the second round for sure.

It's probably a breath of fresh air after so many years of left dominance.

He is not the ideal candidate, and he says so himself, but at least he's not corrupt and doesn't use public money for things like funding his campaign.

He's as polarizing as Trump. And he said he has the same ideals as Trump.

But Trump is a businessman, and a good negotiator.

At least the heart of both is in the right place: what's best for their nations.
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What I learned about modern day elections. I will use Europe as an example.

You have to vote for the candidates that have been approved by the globalist left. If you vote for a populist party then you and your government will be immediately labeled far right. The left leaning media will then state that your country is racist, xenophobic, and undemocratic. The EU will then try and sanction your country because it dares to deviate away from its globalist agenda. So yes you can vote but only for the candidates that Brussels approved for you.
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What I learned about modern day elections. I will use Europe as an example.

You have to vote for the candidates that have been approved by the globalist left. If you vote for a populist party then you and your government will be immediately labeled far right. The left leaning media will then state that your country is racist, xenophobic, and undemocratic. The EU will then try and sanction your country because it dares to deviate away from its globalist agenda. So yes you can vote but only for the candidates that Brussels approved for you.

I agree with every part of your statement except Brussels. I believe you mean the German Empire the Fourth Reich
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What I learned about modern day elections. I will use Europe as an example.

You have to vote for the candidates that have been approved by the globalist left. If you vote for a populist party then you and your government will be immediately labeled far right. The left leaning media will then state that your country is racist, xenophobic, and undemocratic. The EU will then try and sanction your country because it dares to deviate away from its globalist agenda. So yes you can vote but only for the candidates that Brussels approved for you.
This is true.

Bolsonaro the other day said that, if elected, Brazil will leave the UN.
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I agree with every part of your statement except Brussels. I believe you mean the German Empire the Fourth Reich
Absolutely but Brussels is the proxy that Germany feeds its marching orders through.
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Done. Bolsonaro is the president-elect. Cheers
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Is Trump considered "far-right"?
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      10-28-2018, 07:24 PM   #11
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No, a lot of his supporters are though
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I don't understand why they're calling Bolsonaro "far-right".

Disgusting media... trying to paint people in negative light
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Is Trump considered "far-right"?

Anything right of Bernie is far right... but then again the left is throwing Bernie under the bus for not being open boarder.
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Trump called him to congratulate and to say he's eager to start working together.

Nicolas Maduro also congratulated him and said he hopes to collaborate lol Maduro is toast.
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I don't understand why they're calling Bolsonaro "far-right".

Disgusting media... trying to paint people in negative light
Sounds better than just Left of Goebbels doesn't it?
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I don't understand why they're calling Bolsonaro "far-right".

Disgusting media... trying to paint people in negative light
Sounds better than just Left of Goebbels doesn't it?
Not for Brazil. Right is already considered an insult, as is "individualism". Both harsh insults.
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I don't understand why they're calling Bolsonaro "far-right".

Disgusting media... trying to paint people in negative light
Why don't we wait and see what his actions actually portray him as.

Brazil seems super corrupt regardless of who is in power.
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Lived in Brazil for two years and still have family there, this is a scary time down there. Although I know a lot of Brazilians think Brazil was better under dictatorship rule.
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Lived in Brazil for two years and still have family there, this is a scary time down there. Although I know a lot of Brazilians think Brazil was better under dictatorship rule.
Hahahah sorry, couldn't contain my laughter.

In all seriousness now. First things first, there never was a dictatorship in Brazil, and the risk of dictatorship (which is a leftist concept) has been banned for at least 4 years with a right-winger in power. Dictatorships are defended by his defeated opponent.

Criminality is rampant, and more investments will happen on border control. That alone will help with criminal activities a lot. Plus more investment in the military and police.

The future is brighter for Brazil, as with Bolsonaro things have the opportunity to be BETTER relatively than with Trump in the US, which is doing great. Better because trump never pledged to reduce government spending.

Bolsonaro has not used any public money to fund his campaign, and will reduce ministries, privatize state companies and make better use of public money (Trump lives in the White House and maintained the status quo of privileges).

All that after always being murdered by a leftist opposer.

That is the reality.
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Hahahah sorry, couldn't contain my laughter.

In all seriousness now. First things first, there never was a dictatorship in Brazil, and the risk of dictatorship (which is a leftist concept) has been banned for at least 4 years with a right-winger in power. Dictatorships are defended by his defeated opponent.

Criminality is rampant, and more investments will happen on border control. That alone will help with criminal activities a lot. Plus more investment in the military and police.

The future is brighter for Brazil, as with Bolsonaro things have the opportunity to be BETTER relatively than with Trump in the US, which is doing great. Better because trump never pledged to reduce government spending.

Bolsonaro has not used any public money to fund his campaign, and will reduce ministries, privatize state companies and make better use of public money (Trump lives in the White House and maintained the status quo of privileges).

All that after always being murdered by a leftist opposer.

That is the reality.
I'm no history expert on Brazil but what do you mean there was no dictatorship in Brazil? From 1964 to 1985 Brazil was under authoritarian military dictatorship.
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Hahahah sorry, couldn't contain my laughter.

In all seriousness now. First things first, there never was a dictatorship in Brazil, and the risk of dictatorship (which is a leftist concept) has been banned for at least 4 years with a right-winger in power. Dictatorships are defended by his defeated opponent.

Criminality is rampant, and more investments will happen on border control. That alone will help with criminal activities a lot. Plus more investment in the military and police.

The future is brighter for Brazil, as with Bolsonaro things have the opportunity to be BETTER relatively than with Trump in the US, which is doing great. Better because trump never pledged to reduce government spending.

Bolsonaro has not used any public money to fund his campaign, and will reduce ministries, privatize state companies and make better use of public money (Trump lives in the White House and maintained the status quo of privileges).

All that after always being murdered by a leftist opposer.

That is the reality.
I'm no history expert on Brazil but what do you mean there was no dictatorship in Brazil? From 1964 to 1985 Brazil was under authoritarian military dictatorship.
I'm pasting a link with some history to the coup that happened in 1964.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1964...lian_coup_d%27état

That needed to happen to combat communists/terrorists that wanted to implement a dictatorship (left-wing of course), aligned with Cuba and Russia.

During that period, which in Brazil is called "regime of exception", democracy as was known (with ballots) was replaced by a parliamentary voting, and several presidents alternated power during those years.

These communists/terrorists were jailed, went to exile or got killed (400+ were killed).

The former Brazilian president, Dilma, from the Labourers Party, was a communist terrorist, and robbed banks to buy armament and bombs. She got a pardon after the regime ended, as the left was in power.

These communists now belong to communist parties and the labourer party, and they say, openly, that the so-called "repression" against them wasn't a repression because they thought differently. It was because they had a plan of implementing a communist dictatorship à-la Cuba.

Of course they still want to fiercely oppose a liberal. They're losing power and LOTS of politically nominated jobs, public companies and ministries.

In short, there was no dictatorship, as it was barred by a military coup that created an "exception regime", until the institutions were normalized.

You mentioned that some people wanted that period back (which with Bolsonaro, is no longer needed), because, look it up, criminality was FAR less of a problem than it is today, with open borders and little focus on education.
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