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      09-05-2018, 08:03 AM   #89
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The real issue is the black nuclear family and how it has been destroyed by social welfare programs etc. Non marital birthrates are at 75%. Highest of ANY race. What do you expect to happen with no father figure? When the rapper on TV or the gang banger on the corner ends up being that father figure? Mothers can only do so much.
this I agree with 100% but not the other things you said. and by this the government is complicit in incentivising the destruction of black families, with bullshit feminist policies of which family destruction is the logical result.

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that he was killed by enemy fire,
until Long afterwards it was revealed he was killed by people in his own platoon and even his own brother who was a part of the military was lied to regarding the circumstances of his death








https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...dly-fire-death
That doenst change tillman's character. He sacrificed for the right reasons not trying to make himself relevant again and again.
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The real issue is the black nuclear family and how it has been destroyed by social welfare programs etc. Non marital birthrates are at 75%. Highest of ANY race. What do you expect to happen with no father figure? When the rapper on TV or the gang banger on the corner ends up being that father figure? Mothers can only do so much.
this I agree with 100% but not the other things you said. and by this the government is complicit in incentivising the destruction of black families, with bullshit feminist policies of which family destruction is the logical result.

Single Motherhood is not some random circumstances, its by design, its social engineering by powerful people
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That doenst change tillman's character. He sacrificed for the right reasons not trying to make himself relevant again and again.
I have not, would not and will not question tillmans character........

I question the motivation to lie about the circumstances of his death....
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I have not, would not and will not question tillmans character........

I question the motivation to lie about the circumstances of his death....
Right so Tillman stands untouched as a warrior for Nike, despite what happened after. Kaep does not.
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this I agree with 100% but not the other things you said. and by this the government is complicit in incentivising the destruction of black families, with bullshit feminist policies of which family destruction is the logical result.

Single Motherhood is not some random circumstances, its by design, its social engineering by powerful people
The other things I said were facts man...you dont have to agree or disagree with facts. Only accept them or ignore them.

Here is some social engineering: only men work, we only get to tax half the population, let's change that. BOOM. Alot more revenue.
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you make a bullshit post with a false equivalence expecting it to fly?

I am FULLY aware of black on black crime, I condemn it,
but there is a fundamental difference between a gang member, a thief and an overall miscreant committing a crime than a POLICE officer who is supposed to SERVE and PROTECT.
people who are not criminals are supposed to FEEL SAFE around police, not worry than at some point a police can shoot them and then say he felt unsafe and that is enough justification for a trained professional to use deadly force against an unarmed person


I tell you this: it is people like you and your nonsensical positions that give Power to Colin Kaepernick.
Why?
Simple, instead of addressing an issue head on, you throw out all kind of false equivalence, claiming it to be facts.
Nonsensical position, lol. I provide fact for my position, not emotion. Feel free to stay ignorant, Iíll be over here in reality
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Nonsensical position, lol. I provide fact for my position, not emotion. Feel free to stay ignorant, Iíll be over here in reality
I'm with Nike and Kaep
you calling me ignorant doesnt change the facts

here are some facts for you

1. Kaep started a protest
2. when he opted out of his contract, NFL teams refused to sign him despite him being better than many quarterbacks still in the NFL
3. Trump, Jones and a whole bunch of clowns (like you) want to ignore the injustices that are highlighted in the protest
4.Kaep's issue was dying,. he was out of the league, not much support and projected as annoyance
5. Nike decided that whether for Money or Justice, they WILL SUPPORT KAEP
6. NIKE now has Trump, the NFL and all of you by the balls. because Nike makes NFL official Gear. is the NFL now gonna void its contract with Nike?
Is it gonna blackball Nike?. for all the clowns burning their clothes, are they gonna stop watching the NFL, stop buying Nike manufactured NFL gear because Nike now is paying Kaep and is gonna develop both footwear and clothing with his name and iconography on it.


Nike will be on the RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY, and there is nothing that any of you can do about it.
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I'm with Nike and Kaep
you calling me ignorant doesnt change the facts

here are some facts for you

1. Kaep started a protest
2. when he opted out of his contract, NFL teams refused to sign him despite him being better than many quarterbacks still in the NFL
3. Trump, Jones and a whole bunch of clowns (like you) want to ignore the injustices that are highlighted in the protest
4.Kaep's issue was dying,. he was out of the league, not much support and projected as annoyance
5. Nike decided that whether for Money or Justice, they WILL SUPPORT KAEP
6. NIKE now has Trump, the NFL and all of you by the balls. because Nike makes NFL official Gear. is the NFL now gonna void its contract with Nike?
Is it gonna blackball Nike?. for all the clowns burning their clothes, are they gonna stop watching the NFL, stop buying Nike manufactured NFL gear because Nike now is paying Kaep and is gonna develop both footwear and clothing with his name and iconography on it.


Nike will be on the RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY, and there is nothing that any of you can do about it.
Look man, obviously you are pretty rooted in your position. Not going to try to change it. Have a good day!
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Look man, obviously you are pretty rooted in your position. Not going to try to change it. Have a good day!
I admire your attempt to bring facts into this debate, but you canít reason with someone who is obviously in love.
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Nonsensical position, lol. I provide fact for my position, not emotion. Feel free to stay ignorant, I’ll be over here in reality
I'm with Nike and Kaep
you calling me ignorant doesnt change the facts

here are some facts for you

1. Kaep started a protest
2. when he opted out of his contract, NFL teams refused to sign him despite him being better than many quarterbacks still in the NFL
3. Trump, Jones and a whole bunch of clowns (like you) want to ignore the injustices that are highlighted in the protest
4.Kaep's issue was dying,. he was out of the league, not much support and projected as annoyance
5. Nike decided that whether for Money or Justice, they WILL SUPPORT KAEP
6. NIKE now has Trump, the NFL and all of you by the balls. because Nike makes NFL official Gear. is the NFL now gonna void its contract with Nike?
Is it gonna blackball Nike?. for all the clowns burning their clothes, are they gonna stop watching the NFL, stop buying Nike manufactured NFL gear because Nike now is paying Kaep and is gonna develop both footwear and clothing with his name and iconography on it.


Nike will be on the RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY, and there is nothing that any of you can do about it.
This experiment will not end well for exec at Nike who made this choice or kaep. There is more to this than the NFL or trying to sell shoes and apparel.

Fact for you: had lucrative contract and opted out for more money while poking the bear = pure ignorance.
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I admire your attempt to bring facts into this debate, but you canít reason with someone who is obviously in love.
Nike will be on the RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY, and there is nothing that any of you can do about it.


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I'm with Nike and Kaep
you calling me ignorant doesnt change the facts

here are some facts for you

1. Kaep started a protest
2. when he opted out of his contract, NFL teams refused to sign him despite him being better than many quarterbacks still in the NFL


Uhhh he had offers after he left SF. So your facts are plain incorrect and not facts, they are misinformation.


Nike investors aren't happy about the Colin Kaepernick ad:
https://money.cnn.com/2018/09/04/new...ick/index.html

Adidas shares are up more than 20% while Under Armour's (UAA) stock has gained more than 40%.

People shouldn't buy Nike because of the sweat shops and how they damage the planet anyways. This was a dumb move which most people with a level head would agree. Everyone agrees except dumb liberals who apparently choose which issues to care about when they want to care about them. CK & sweat shops and damaging the earth with pollution vs. say a company without blood on their hands like New Balance


Fuck him and his GF





Nike’s decision to ruffle the feathers of a partner, the NFL, is a truly baffling move at a time when the NFL is desperately trying to move on from the anthem issue and focus on football.

Nike chooses to pour gasoline on the smoldering dying fire that was CK. And let's be completely honest here Nike isn't 'honoring' Kaepernick, they are intentionally stoking the embers of a divisive issue to try to sell shoes. The losers here are the NFL and its fans. The fact people want to support CK and ignore the fact NIKE is using him(a black man) to make money(which again they do in shitty ways) just blows my mind. NIKE doesn't care about people or these social issues. If they did care, they would not operate sweat shops and exploit people in 3rd world countries while damaging the planet.
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Whatever "drop" they may have incurred, will assuredly be made up for in the coming months and holidays. Trust me... No one at NIKE is worried whatsoever. *grabs one of my many Nike active wear and Vapor Air Max shoes and headed to local Nike store for more purchases*
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Whatever "drop" they may have incurred, will assuredly be made up for in the coming months and holidays. Trust me... No one at NIKE is worried whatsoever. *grabs one of my many Nike active wear and Vapor Air Max shoes and headed to local Nike store for more purchases*
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So you openly support sweat shops and damaging the planet? Which way do you vote? I'm guessing left. Pretending to care about issues is their playbook.
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You people do realize that Nike has been at the leading edge of "sweatshop" reform since the early 2000s right? They even report their progress and issues in their yearly reports...

I'm not saying they are perfect; they still have a ways to go; but unless everything you are wearing is by New Balance or LL Bean (and a few others), you are supporting sweatshop labor by default, so your complaints are ludicrously hypocritical...
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So you openly support sweat shops and damaging the planet? Which way do you vote? I'm guessing left. Pretending to care about issues is their playbook.
Take that one sided, over exaggerated bullshit somewhere else. LMFAO! Nike isn't doing anything it's competitors aren't doing in manufacturing.
You're not kidding nobody trying to glaze your bias over by using where or how it's products are made. You're pissed by their spokesman choice. #Justadmitit
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No he has a right to make stupid choices, Nike doesnt have to join in and reward him.
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Uhhh
People shouldn't buy Nike because of the sweat shops and how they damage the planet anyways. This was a dumb move which most people with a level head would agree.
Yea, because you know more than the executives at a billion dollars company, as to what is best for them..........LOL

I hope you dont buy anything from Apple/ Amazon and tons of other companies who make shit in sweatshops or on amazons case, exploiting its own workers and underpaying them while bezos has mire money than could solve half the words economic problems

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Uhhh
Everyone agrees except dumb liberals who apparently choose which issues to care about when they want to care about them. CK & sweat shops and damaging the earth with pollution vs. say a company without blood on their hands like New Balance
for the record i am NOT a Liberal. matter of fact my personal values would more align with American conservatism than anything liberal
But the overt ling racist hypocrisy that comes from the right is something i cannot support. To boot you now have a 3 time divorcee, a as one of his cabinet members put it, "a professional liar" and an adulterer with a Porn Star, occupying the office of president.
A man who is using the Law as a means of carrying out the racist agenda of those who have their hands up his ass and him being their puppet
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Yea, because you know more than the executives at a billion dollars company, as to what is best for them..........LOL

I hope you dont buy anything from Apple/ Amazon and tons of other companies who make shit in sweatshops or on amazons case, exploiting its own workers and underpaying them while bezos has mire money than could solve half the words economic problems



for the record i am NOT a Liberal. matter of fact my personal values would more align with American conservatism than anything liberal
But the overt ling racist hypocrisy that comes from the right is something i cannot support. To boot you now have a 3 time divorcee, a as one of his cabinet members put it, "a professional liar" and an adulterer with a Porn Star, occupying the office of president.
A man who is using the Law as a means of carrying out the racist agenda of those who have their hands up his ass and him being their puppet

Show me the racist agenda of the current administration. Are you referring to immigration? Illegal immigrants?
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Take that one sided, over exaggerated bullshit somewhere else. LMFAO! Nike isn't doing anything it's competitors aren't doing in manufacturing.
You're not kidding nobody trying to glaze your bias over by using where or how it's products are made. You're pissed by their spokesman choice. #Justadmitit
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What a resurrection power.

Nike is more powerful than the NFL, more Powerful than Trump the lame duck who gonna be dead when wood wards book is released and they now back Kaep

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this I agree with 100% but not the other things you said. and by this the government is complicit in incentivising the destruction of black families, with bullshit feminist policies of which family destruction is the logical result.

Single Motherhood is not some random circumstances, its by design, its social engineering by powerful people
The other things I said were facts man...you dont have to agree or disagree with facts. Only accept them or ignore them.

Here is some social engineering: only men work, we only get to tax half the population, let's change that. BOOM. Alot more revenue.
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