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      12-08-2021, 09:56 AM   #925
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Too bad he doesn't post in these forums. It'd be a nice change to debate with Helmut Marko. Read the last sentence over again.
Yes, that's how bad it is…
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Red Bull’s motorsport advisor Marko was furious with the decision in the immediate aftermath of this event. He said that his team had proof which would show the stewards that Max was innocent.

However, Marko has since apologized for saying that. He took back his words and admitted that he was wrong.

“At the time of the television interviews, I passed on exactly the information that I had received from the engineers beforehand.” said the Austrian.

“They were obviously not correct, so I’m sorry for that.”
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ALso.... finally a proper data trace with enough resolution to see what happened.

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ALso.... finally a proper data trace with enough resolution to see what happened.

6:19 to skip all of the nonsense. They're using the same telemetry chart.

Definite DRS posturing and pacing from VER, maybe also from HAM. Bad timing with VER's increased braking simultaneous to HAM's acceleration and attempted pass. Not a brake check and intentional collision.
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Ham has always had the superior car since '14 so it's easy for him to 'back out' and then he tries again on the straight and overtakes, easy peasy for him, the others haven't a chance so they do anything it takes to stay ahead knowing if he gets past then it's game over, does that make sense to you.
Lewis hasn't had the superior car all this season though has he that has been obvious. And when in your other comment you mention that rules are biased towards one team or another I take it thats a joke?

Both have come up with new and innovative features, flexi wings, both, Clever steering, Merc and many more for them to be stopped or allowed for a season due to how clever they have been.

F1 has been like that for years as has any other motorsport, you make the most of what you have. Spending isn't all that dissimilar either when you look at the spending across RB+Toro and Merc so thats not the big issue you state. If it was Ferrari the biggest spender of the lot would be winning as they have the biggest budget and have for decades and where are they?
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Lewis hasn't had the superior car all this season though has he that has been obvious. And when in your other comment you mention that rules are biased towards one team or another I take it thats a joke?

Both have come up with new and innovative features, flexi wings, both, Clever steering, Merc and many more for them to be stopped or allowed for a season due to how clever they have been.

F1 has been like that for years as has any other motorsport, you make the most of what you have. Spending isn't all that dissimilar either when you look at the spending across RB+Toro and Merc so thats not the big issue you state. If it was Ferrari the biggest spender of the lot would be winning as they have the biggest budget and have for decades and where are they?
Sure Merc seemingly didn't have a superior car earlier on then look what they had on the shelf waiting in such an event and also the dirties against Max via Bot and Ham, nothing much was made out of that as to Max's defending now...look what Bernie has to say about it.
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