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[Ghetto2315]

Here is my first post so please cut a noob some slack. The car will come with the Competition Package and it will have the "Y Spoke - Style 359M" 19x9 front and 19x10 rear pictured below (I don't know what the Offset is. I think it's 31 front / 25 rear).





Always wanted them in Black, so I'm going the cheap route and purchasing replicas off of Ebay. However, nobody makes a 19x9 front and 19x10 rear, which is what the OEM wheels are.

Replicas come only in a 19x8.5 front and a 19x9.5 rear. My question is, which set fit perfectly fine? I am looking for a factory stock fit and look.



The specs of the 3 replica sets are:

Bolt Pattern: 5x120
Finish: Matte Black
Offset: ET35 Front / ET35-38 Rear
Hubcentric: 72.6

and

Bolt Pattern: 5x120
Finish: Matte Black
Offset: ET20 Front / ET20 Rear
Hubcentric: 72.6

and

Bolt Pattern: 5x120
Finish: Matte Black
Offset: ET37 Front / ET27 Rear
Hubcentric: 72.6



Tires now are 245/35/19 so I assume these will fit the replicas no problem.

Thank you for all the help. A new member looking to learn from you guys and I'm happy to be part of the community.

[tlp]

8.5 & 9.5 replicas is a step backwards if you ask me. The attached photo is a replica of the e46 M3 ZCP wheels not the 359M. Just buy some used 359's here and have them powder coated black.

[Ghetto2315]

Originally Posted by tlp

8.5 & 9.5 replicas is a step backwards if you ask me. The attached photo is a replica of the e46 M3 ZCP wheels not the 359M. Just buy some used 359's here and have them powder coated black.

You sure? These are the wheels that I have on the car:

[tlp]

Originally Posted by Ghetto2315

You sure? These are the wheels that I have on the car:

Similar design but not the same. For starters, notice how the spokes extend to edge of the rim. Just paint your current wheels or you don't want to because it's a lease.

[Ghetto2315]

Originally Posted by tlp

Similar design but not the same. For starters, notice how the spokes extend to edge of the rim. Just paint your current wheels or you don't want to because it's a lease.

oooh gotcha. My noob eyes.

Yes, car is a lease. Rather not touch the OEM wheels...

[tlp]

Originally Posted by Ghetto2315

oooh gotcha. My noob eyes.

Yes, car is a lease. Rather not touch the OEM wheels...

So your willing to sacrifice performance & safety for looks by going to a narrower/heavier/weaker wheel just for the color black . Sounds pretty ghetto to me.

[Ghetto2315]

Originally Posted by tlp

So your willing to sacrifice performance & safety for looks by going to a narrower/heavier/weaker wheel just for the color black . Sounds pretty ghetto to me.

lol good one.

It's my daily driver. Will never see the track. I work 10-minutes way from home and I highly doubt driving on the interstate cruising at 85-MPH, with minor moments of 100+ MPH blasts is going to hinder the performance.

Call me ignorant, but I don't see the problem. I've looked on TireRack.com and when you peruse the wheels for my 12 M3 Coupe with Competition Package, they're all basically 19x8.5 front / 19x9.5 rear like the Replicas I'm looking to buy...

EDIT: Can't be that bad of an idea, because BMW has the "Double Spoke (Style 220M)" as a wheel option from the factory and the size of them are 19x8.5 front / 19x9.5 rear like the replicas...

[arter]

Since you are a half and inch narrower, front and back, you will want to move 1/4 inch further out ( or 25.4 mm / 4 = ~6 mm out) so you want to substrack 6 to the current ET to roughly match. So 31 - 6 = 25 front and 25 -6 = 20 rear would have the outside of the tires at roughly the same spacing.

[Ghetto2315]

Originally Posted by arter

Since you are a half and inch narrower, front and back, you will want to move 1/4 inch further out ( or 25.4 mm / 4 = ~6 mm out) so you want to substrack 6 to the current ET to roughly match. So 31 - 6 = 25 front and 25 -6 = 20 rear would have the outside of the tires at roughly the same spacing.

ET 31 Front / ET 25 Rear is the stock OEM ET of the wheels I have now.

The 3 replica sets I am looking at, all have different ET offsets.

1.) Offset: ET35 Front / ET35-38 Rear

2.) Offset: ET20 Front / ET20 Rear

3.) Offset: ET37 Front / ET27 Rear

Trying to determine which one would be best. I appreciate your help thus far...

[arter]

If those are you choices, I would go with #2.

The back tires ( 265/35/19's) would extent 3mm further out than std ( no change) and the front tires ( 245/35/19) at ET 20 would extend out 9 mm further out than std -> so would look like you are using a 10mm spacer.
This would fit and would be closer to flush on the front.

Stock 220 wheels ( 8.5 & 9.5) are ET 29 front and ET 23 back ( which is what I am comparing against. No issues with the inside gap.

[Ghetto2315]

Originally Posted by arter

If those are you choices, I would go with #2.

The back tires ( 265/35/19's) would extent 3mm further out than std ( no change) and the front tires ( 245/35/19) at ET 20 would extend out 9 mm further out than std -> so would look like you are using a 10mm spacer.
This would fit and would be closer to flush on the front.

Stock 220 wheels ( 8.5 & 9.5) are ET 29 front and ET 23 back ( which is what I am comparing against. No issues with the inside gap.

Wow, good info so far.

Okay from what you're saying, the ET20 Rear on the replicas would seem to fit almost perfectly and look flush like stock of what I have now.

#1 and #2 are from the same seller. Would it be better to get ET35 Front of set #1 over the ET20 Front of set #2? If it is, perhaps I can get the seller to give me a custom set of 19x8.5 ET35 Front / 19x9.5 ET20 Rear if it's better. If not, I'll stick with the ET 20 Front and Rear.

[1cleanm6]

search: avante garde 359.....

all your problems solved.

[Robmaster]

Originally Posted by 1cleanm3

search: avante garde 359.....

all your problems solved.

that's right! Avant Garde make the perfect 359M replica with the best offset and you can have it black.

http://www.avantgardewheels.com/m359.php

and btw: you can buy the 359M from BMW in black.

[Ghetto2315]

Originally Posted by Robmaster

that's right! Avant Garde make the perfect 359M replica with the best offset and you can have it black.

http://www.avantgardewheels.com/m359.php

and btw: you can buy the 359M from BMW in black.

Thank you for the advice on the Avant Garde M359 wheels. These aren't 100% matching spec, but at least the width (19x9 Front and 19x10 Rear) are the same as OEM. Rear Offset is a match at 25, but the Front Offset is a little off at 35 (OEM is 31). Getting a 5mm spacer and I should be good to go.

Thank you everyone for the help!

[Radiation Joe]

Of the choices you posted, #2 is a good choice. Offsets are slightly more aggressive than stock without going crazy. You don't need wider wheels with stock size tires.

[slicer]

Originally Posted by Ghetto2315

lol good one.

It's my daily driver. Will never see the track. I work 10-minutes way from home and I highly doubt driving on the interstate cruising at 85-MPH, with minor moments of 100+ MPH blasts is going to hinder the performance.

Call me ignorant, but I don't see the problem. I've looked on TireRack.com and when you peruse the wheels for my 12 M3 Coupe with Competition Package, they're all basically 19x8.5 front / 19x9.5 rear like the Replicas I'm looking to buy...

EDIT: Can't be that bad of an idea, because BMW has the "Double Spoke (Style 220M)" as a wheel option from the factory and the size of them are 19x8.5 front / 19x9.5 rear like the replicas...

if you don't car about performance why buy an M3? Don't buy cheap replica wheels. The stock ZCP wheels are a solid, high-quality wheel made by BBS. Cheap wheels are heavier, bend easily and will look worse. I would not want narrower wheels on my M3. I would go wider if anything. You admitted that you are new to this. I would advise you to listen to those of us who have gone down this road before. Get the OEM wheels painted or buy the black OEM GTS wheels (same as yours but painted black). It will cost you around $2300. Reps will cost you $1000+. Why buy cheap reps to save $1000 after just spending $70k on the car?

Here is a link:

http://www.trademotion.com/partlocat...catalogid=4462

[GregW / Oregon]

Originally Posted by Ghetto2315

ET 31 Front / ET 25 Rear is the stock OEM ET of the wheels I have now.

Sent you a PM on another option.

[Robmaster]

Originally Posted by Ghetto2315

Thank you for the advice on the Avant Garde M359 wheels. These aren't 100% matching spec, but at least the width (19x9 Front and 19x10 Rear) are the same as OEM. Rear Offset is a match at 25, but the Front Offset is a little off at 35 (OEM is 31). Getting a 5mm spacer and I should be good to go.

Thank you everyone for the help!

sorry, but the front wheels are also available with the ET18... so perfect fit for M3.

http://www.**********s.com/Avant-Gar...-Black-BMW.htm