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      10-27-2017, 06:39 PM   #243
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I have a phone coming Nov 3rd. With the demand of these things so high and not available until later, people are willing to pay $2k+ for a 1st week phone...

I may flip it.
That may be optimistic, most people will be willing to wait a couple weeks, not really worth a grand just to get it one week earlier. There may not be much to be made after shipping cost, and other sellers flooding the market in the first two weeks, after which no one will pay more. Also, there's the camp that will camp out on November 3rd. Easier and quicker turnaround to buy and hold apple stock, and you get to keep your phone rather than selling it and waiting who knows how long, maybe next year to get another one.
Someone already has it on the classifieds for 2k and over night shipping is at buyers expense lmfao! I agree. If it was limited edition wont come again in a lifetime I get up-marking it.... but paying 2k or waiting a few weeks... pfft my iPhone 6 works just fine I'll wait
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      10-27-2017, 08:48 PM   #244
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Ordered first order was fubared by Apple.

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anyone else order T-Mobile version with Nov 10-17 date?

Seems like it was a miscalculation on apples part because I just got my derlivery date bumped to November 3. Looks like everyone else who were first to order with the later date got bumped to nov 3 as well. I’m happy.
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      10-28-2017, 11:27 AM   #246
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Checked on Best Buy and they are showing ship date of Dec 15. On Apple's site it is currently unavailable. Wow.
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      10-28-2017, 12:33 PM   #247
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Don't know why anyone is surprised it's sold out. This happens pretty much with every major iphone release.

Last time I bothered with pre-orders was like iphone 5 or 6 maybe. Now I don't really care. If verizon ever offers an even swap deal then I would upgrade (thats what I did to get my iphone 7) otherwise I'll wait.
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Someone already has it on the classifieds for 2k and over night shipping is at buyers expense lmfao! I agree. If it was limited edition wont come again in a lifetime I get up-marking it.... but paying 2k or waiting a few weeks... pfft my iPhone 6 works just fine I'll wait
I'm waiting for the issues to be sorted out before I buy one. It always happens. But $2k in the US might be a slight stretch right now or maybe not. If they can't be produced in enough quantities it will happen. And $2K is nothing for iPhones. You would pass out if you saw the international market. It could be double that or more.
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      10-28-2017, 05:13 PM   #249
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Someone already has it on the classifieds for 2k and over night shipping is at buyers expense lmfao! I agree. If it was limited edition wont come again in a lifetime I get up-marking it.... but paying 2k or waiting a few weeks... pfft my iPhone 6 works just fine I'll wait
I'm waiting for the issues to be sorted out before I buy one. It always happens. But $2k in the US might be a slight stretch right now or maybe not. If they can't be produced in enough quantities it will happen. And $2K is nothing for iPhones. You would pass out if you saw the international market. It could be double that or more.
I make way more doing nothing just by holding on to my apple stock than selling a couple of phones for double would make me.
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      10-28-2017, 07:56 PM   #250
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Checked on Best Buy and they are showing ship date of Dec 15. On Apple's site it is currently unavailable. Wow.
it says available to ship in 5-6 weeks?
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I ended up getting 4 phones:
- 2 from Apple - T-Mobile sim => delivery 2-3 weeks
- 2 from Best Buy - GSM/no specific carrier => delivery 11/10

Should have went with B/B from the beginning. They didn't ask any carrier info if paying full price.
Is this for your family or you're planning to re-sell them? You might be better off buying apple stock for $3000, you will probably make more money that way and give others a chance to get the iphone X.
1 for me and 3 as Christmas gifts (mom,dad and younger brother). There was so much hype and reports about limited supply that I wanted to order them right away. I should have them in 2-3 weeks.

As far as Apple stock, I had a substantial position at ~90 a share that I liquidated some time ago. At this price level I would feel more comfortable shorting this stock... Your $3,000 trade would have to be leveraged (options) in order to make some money...
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Checked on Best Buy and they are showing ship date of Dec 15. On Apple's site it is currently unavailable. Wow.
it says available to ship in 5-6 weeks?
Correct - available to ship in 5-6 weeks, but unavailable for store pickup.

I read somewhere that supposedly they are running low on inventory and all new orders will be delivered after Christmas. Not sure how accurate that is.
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1 for me and 3 as Christmas gifts (mom,dad and younger brother). There was so much hype and reports about limited supply that I wanted to order them right away. I should have them in 2-3 weeks.

As far as Apple stock, I had a substantial position at ~90 a share that I liquidated some time ago. At this price level I would feel more comfortable shorting this stock... Your $3,000 trade would have to be leveraged (options) in order to make some money...
Lol, shorting the most profitable company in the world that trades at 14 times 2018 earnings in a market where msft trades at 35 times.
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      10-28-2017, 11:49 PM   #254
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1 for me and 3 as Christmas gifts (mom,dad and younger brother). There was so much hype and reports about limited supply that I wanted to order them right away. I should have them in 2-3 weeks.

As far as Apple stock, I had a substantial position at ~90 a share that I liquidated some time ago. At this price level I would feel more comfortable shorting this stock... Your $3,000 trade would have to be leveraged (options) in order to make some money...
My buy in was $90 before the 7-for-1 split. As far as small investing, I went in on LQMT when rumors flew that the 'next" iPhone would be made of liquid metal. That was YEARS ago. This year my investment finally paid off.
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1 for me and 3 as Christmas gifts (mom,dad and younger brother). There was so much hype and reports about limited supply that I wanted to order them right away. I should have them in 2-3 weeks.

As far as Apple stock, I had a substantial position at ~90 a share that I liquidated some time ago. At this price level I would feel more comfortable shorting this stock... Your $3,000 trade would have to be leveraged (options) in order to make some money...
Lol, shorting the most profitable company in the world that trades at 14 times 2018 earnings in a market where msft trades at 35 times.
If I had to pick between Apple and Microsoft I would actually pick Microsoft. Microsoft has a lot of growth potential in the cloud/Azure space, and Apple is a one trick pony company at this point. The cell phone market is getting saturated, sales for the iPhone 8 are poor, they have issues in China with the new watch. Their innovation basically stopped at iPhone 6. Will be interesting to see the numbers for X in Q4/Q1.

The PE expanded from 10 (mid 2016) to 18 (now) - MSFT moved from ~40 to ~28.
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      10-29-2017, 10:53 AM   #257
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      10-29-2017, 12:17 PM   #258
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If I had to pick between Apple and Microsoft I would actually pick Microsoft. Microsoft has a lot of growth potential in the cloud/Azure space, and Apple is a one trick pony company at this point. The cell phone market is getting saturated, sales for the iPhone 8 are poor, they have issues in China with the new watch. Their innovation basically stopped at iPhone 6. Will be interesting to see the numbers for X in Q4/Q1.

The PE expanded from 10 (mid 2016) to 18 (now) - MSFT moved from ~40 to ~28.
So you’re agreeing MSFT is still significantly more expensive? Apple stands to benefit the most of any company from tax reform and is moving away from a “one trick” pony to a services company. $262B in cash gives them more like a 14 multiple.

Saying Apple is just a phone company is just a misunderstanding of the company. I am long MSFT too.
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Checked on Best Buy and they are showing ship date of Dec 15. On Apple's site it is currently unavailable. Wow.
it says available to ship in 5-6 weeks?
Maybe now it does. It was saying unavailable yesterday when I checked. Still don't think it's worth scalping, not worth the effort IMHO
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Opened app at 205 central, finished preorder and got the 256gb for launch day. Took a whole 2 min!
App didn’t work for me at all. Then Apple Pay didn’t work because it said my billing address was wrong. Said to hell with it and just bought one outright on the website. Order completed at 2:10 CST
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I'm waiting for the issues to be sorted out before I buy one. It always happens. But $2k in the US might be a slight stretch right now or maybe not. If they can't be produced in enough quantities it will happen. And $2K is nothing for iPhones. You would pass out if you saw the international market. It could be double that or more.
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I'm waiting for the issues to be sorted out before I buy one. It always happens. But $2k in the US might be a slight stretch right now or maybe not. If they can't be produced in enough quantities it will happen. And $2K is nothing for iPhones. You would pass out if you saw the international market. It could be double that or more.
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I make way more doing nothing just by holding on to my apple stock than selling a couple of phones for double would make me.
Apple stock is up again this morning, no point in reselling iPhones.
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The cell phone market is getting saturated, sales for the iPhone 8 are poor,..
Sales are poor because it is being compared to other iPhone launches which there haven't been any before like this where a more premium iPhone is launched at the same time. Unless you compare it to the iPhone SE. Regardless if iPhone X sales exceed expectations, then the stock will do well.
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