Anyone purposely drive a lower grip tire on the street?

[Golddots]

I find that I enjoy driving my M3 more on public roads with all seasons(Michelin as3+) vs summer tires. The limit is lower so I can more easily get the vehicle to slide at lower speeds.
Anyone do something similar? I do have another set of wheels with the “200twr” tires for events.

[okusa]

Safety first. Save it for the track.

[MVEED3]

Although I am in the camp of running separate street and track wheel sets; I make a habit of going with the recommended tire rating spec or better. I won't skimp on anything safety related. Cabin filters are the only generic orders.

[gerikivan]

i usually use a 300tw for a daily tires and use a 120tw for spirited runs or track… 300tw has a longer life span..

[nsogiba]

I think there is something to your idea, but only so long as safety is there. Even on stock tire sizes you would be hard pressed to find the limit of a stock M3 on the street. Donuts in a parking lot don't count, I mean off/on ramps, cloverleafs, that kind of thing.

Mount up some square 245 all seasons and let us know how your driving experience changes.

[D_SheerDrivingPleasure]

Originally Posted by Golddots

I find that I enjoy driving my M3 more on public roads with all seasons(Michelin as3+) vs summer tires. The limit is lower so I can more easily get the vehicle to slide at lower speeds.
Anyone do something similar? I do have another set of wheels with the “200twr” tires for events.

Reminds me of how all the auto journalist loved driving the first generation Toyota 86/BRZ which came with junky Michelin Primacy tires. You could break the rear loose with 150 HP and feel like a hero. Meanwhile the current generation car oil starves on 200TW tires.

[bigjae1976]

If you're starting out on the track, I would argue running a lower grip tire improves skill development in the long term.

Too often newbs show up with 100 treadwear tires and consistently get saved by the grip of the tire. My student, 2nd track event, ended up in the wall at COTA with me in it because he was consistently relying on the Yoko A052s to save him from his mistakes. He really badly overcooked a turn and we hit the wall at 79mph. The difference is we were easily traveling 10mph faster than if he had a 300 treadwear PS4S, the car probably wouldn't even have turned, gone straight off and would just have had gravel in his car.

But all seasons are a little far to the other end of the spectrum. They will quickly overheat and chunk. You want something in the 200-300 treadwear range.

If you're trying to push tires to the limit on the street...you're an idiot in my opinion.

[e92BMW///M3]

Having just stepped to a 200tw tire for the track I will be on lower grip (either PSS or PS4S) street tires but only because I don’t see any benefit to driving with a 200tw on the street. IMO, match your street tires to the conditions you see on the street, likely a high performance all season if you drove it year round or high performance summer tire. But as others have said, keep the overly aggressive driving on the track, no need to learn the limits of the car on open roads.