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Because of the similar price, some people 'might' be cross-shopping like the OP. However, GT-R is too hard to get because of the limited supply and dealers still don't know how many allocations they'll get. I would bet that even with the markup of +$10k, GT-R will be hard to get soon.
I want both GT-R and M3 and can't decide. M3 for it's well-balanced, thrill to drive, and it's awesome high-rev engine. GT-R for it's baby-bugatti like performance. I think both cars are awesome and can't go wrong with either. BTW, does anyone know the average MPG GT-R gets?
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"BTW, does anyone know the average MPG GT-R gets?"
Road and track got an "our average" of 17.5 mpg in their latest test against the ZO6 and 911TT. All three got similar gas mileage. I'm not sure if that included 0-60 runs or what... Last edited by Krueger///M3; 03-21-2008 at 11:56 PM.. |
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I make well into the 7 digits, but in pesos!!! Hahahaha!!!! Anyway, who cares who makes what!!! Lets get back to cars and what we all share, a passion for BMW!!! Cheers!!!
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I went from M3 to GT-R and then back to the M3... Here was my logic for coming back to the M3:
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Wow, BMW335icDDS, you have some serious personal issues.....Sad really...I hope you sort yourself out a bit as you mature...
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I dispute that: in my view it would be hedge fund managers; it's just that the data are harder to access - but you can see some summary data in "Alpha" mag.
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M3 Manual Transmission. I have a buddy who races for Nissan and has a GTR and it's not that cool, its all hyped up because of Fast and the Furious. Do you want a sick car with a bunch of cheap plastic inside? Every car company basis their sport car off the M3. It's the icon of performance road cars. And the skyline is ugly as hell.
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Come on this is old news we all know the stock BMW M3 is not that fast compared to the new kids on the block. AND alright we know the M3 is heavy too we know that. I am tired of people who are in denial trying to say that the M3 is the best car in the world and better than the skyline GTR. well guess what it's not better track wise or street too. It's all about personal preference. Sometimes i wonder how materialistic this country has become on certain things... and to prove that their car is better than all the rest like it defines you in a social class. Just like BMWPRINCE who thought the new M3 lacked power at high speeds. Seriously, people need to stop with saying the m3 is the best and blah blah blah. ANd especially on the POntiac G8! Give everyone a chance open your mind and views shit.
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You want to buy one of the fastest track cars so you can do the occasional highway pull? If you never go to the track, the performance advantage of the GT-R is a waist and that's the whole appeal of the car. With the GT-R, you're going to have to live with its super stiff track tuned suspension. I've heard people say that the GT-R has the stiffest suspension they had ever experienced in a road car. The GT-R was designed for the race track first, and everything else second. Of course, if you've been commuting in a S2k for the last 6 years, you're used to lack of creature comforts. The M3 is far from perfect but I think it makes more sense coming from a S2000. The M3's V8 is just a more grown up version of the S2k's I4. Both will rev to the moon but the M3's much larger and flatter torque curve is going to make regular driving a lot more enjoyable. To be honest, I think you should get a S5. It's AWD, very fast, more comfortable and better looking than both the M3 and GT-R. Plus, you can now get that car with a DSG transmission. The GT-R and even M3 are too hardcore for what you're looking for. Don't take that as an insult. If you went to the track on occasion, I would say get the M3. If you went to the track all the time, I would recommend the GT-R. For a track free lifestyle, I think the S5 is your car. Of course this my opinion on the matter. I just don't see the point of high performance cars if all you do is drive them in traffic. Go check out the S5 at your Audi dealer. You have nothing to lose. Good luck. |
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Saw 2 white GTRs last night. They look better in person i'd say, although it's badged way too much. It's a big car though, much bigger than I thought. Interior isn't too bad, engine bay looks like it's a nightmare to work on. The spoiler/wing at the rear looks horrid if you ask me, but the exhaust pipes are nice We'll see.
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the arguments earlier were pure hilarity.
As for the GTR, it turns heads, if you know what the heck it is. Most people don't even know what the heck that was that just flew by them. And at the end of the day its still a Nismo. I'll have to agree, the sound of the V-8 is just addicting to the revv. You just want to hear it all day,. and let me tell you. It turns heads like no other. I would also like to add that if you want the use of a track car with comfort how can you resist the ///M..? Is the GTR even comfy... to cruise in? or is pure track buckets? |
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Wow, the GTR trumphs over the M3 in almost all area. So, guess which dealer I wrote my check to? Yes! I got the M3 in white. And no, I'm not insane. I'm simply after different qualtities. What closed the deal was driver involvement. Like you, I have other cars that I can use everyday or in the snow. The M3 is purely a fun car for me. Compared to the GTR, the steering is much more direct and communicative. The high reving V8 also gets my heart. You need to constantly fiddle with the gears to find where the torque is. And this certainly an equation for euphoria. Journalists' claims of the GTR driving itself around corners is perhaps an exaggeration, but handling the M3 does require much more attension. The Nissan is like a housewife; you'll have the confidence that she'll do what needs to do to get things done: grocerys, get the kids, and laundary - business as usual. She gets the job don't without you worrying about anything. The Bimmer, on the other hand, is a difficult bitch who would turn around and slap you on the face as soon as she senses any lack of attension from you. It is by no means as crude and raw as a Lotus or Aerial Atom, but if you want performance, you need to earn it. Work hard enough and you will be rewarded with the feeling of in complete control. This feeling is precisely what driving enthusists - me included - wants. Okay, I've picked the M3; the easy part is over. Now the hard part: be faithful to the 6 speed manual or be tempted by the blistering quick up-shifts od the MDCT. |
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