RDSport RS 46 - 3000km roadtrip

KonigsTiger · 08-26-2009, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by michaeldorian

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Nice!!! It also appears you have driven many sports cars? Is this also the case.

michaeldorian · 08-26-2009, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BMW-M-Mexico

Nice!!! It also appears you have driven many sports cars? Is this also the case.

Yes. When I first purchased the M, I was a bit disappointed in the power for everyday driving. I personally feel the car is lacking about 50lbs torque and 50hp across the entire rev range. It just has too much weight to push around. You have to rev it to the sky, which can feel tiring and straining everyday. Since then, I've been testing a variety of cars to determined whether I put the money towards something else, i.e. GTR, etc or spend the difference on modifying the M3.

I've driven everything from a 430 down to WRX STI to compare. If I decide to mod the M, I will be keeping it for a while.

I still need to drive a C63 though, the autogear box is a big negative for me.

KonigsTiger · 08-26-2009, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by michaeldorian

Yes. When I first purchased the M, I was a bit disappointed in the power for everyday driving. I personally feel the car is lacking about 50lbs torque and 50hp across the entire rev range. It just has too much weight to push around. You have to rev it to the sky, which can feel tiring and straining everyday. Since then, I've been testing a variety of cars to determined whether I put the money towards something else, i.e. GTR, etc or spend the difference on modifying the M3.

I've driven everything from a 430 down to WRX STI to compare. If I decide to mod the M, I will be keeping it for a while.

I still need to drive a C63 though, the autogear box is a big negative for me.

I´ve also driven all of these vehicles many, many times except for the GTR. The C63 is drives great especially straight line and is no slouch through corners as some may say although I find the M3 chassis an absolutely great platform to mod off of. Structural rigidity, balance, etc... are comparable to dedicated sports cars. The power is an issue with me as well and is why I modded the hell out of it!! Hahaha!! Also took a some weight off and improved suspension, brakes and the like. A la GT3 so to speak.

michaeldorian · 08-26-2009, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by BMW-M-Mexico

I´ve also driven all of these vehicles many, many times except for the GTR. The C63 is drives great especially straight line and is no slouch through corners as some may say although I find the M3 chassis an absolutely great platform to mod off of. Structural rigidity, balance, etc... are comparable to dedicated sports cars. The power is an issue with me as well and is why I modded the hell out of it!! Hahaha!! Also took a some weight off and improved suspension, brakes and the like. A la GT3 so to speak.

If I decide to go this route, this is the exact same strategy I would take. Take it into my own hands to build what BMW refuses to build. A "GT3" or "CSL" version of this car. This car really need to lose 200~250 pounds.

With that said, I do feel that the RDSport motor, however great it is, takes away some of that "M"-ness. (The slower revs and slightly lazier engine). I'm not 100 percent sure, if I keep the car, this is the route I would take. I still need to drive one of the FI cars. The downside to FI is the added weight in the wrong areas and engine reliability. However, since FI doesn't change the change where the car makes power, I think the M characteristics will be more intacted. It just amplifies everything.

Sharkwerks in the bay area has a 3.9 liter engine mod for the 997.1 GT3/RS. 510HP, 8900RPM and ~3100 lbs. There's a thread on 6Speed about it. I think you'll enjoy that thread.

datbimmerdoe · 08-26-2009, 02:52 PM

Beauty and a beast.

Ryan@IND · 08-26-2009, 05:37 PM

Clean and beautiful..

i especially like those RD wheels. Classic step lip with 5-spokes.

datbimmerdoe · 08-26-2009, 07:24 PM

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Clean and beautiful..

i especially like those RD wheels. Classic step lip with 5-spokes.

I know tell me about it... Dayum!

KonigsTiger · 08-26-2009, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by michaeldorian

If I decide to go this route, this is the exact same strategy I would take. Take it into my own hands to build what BMW refuses to build. A "GT3" or "CSL" version of this car. This car really need to lose 200~250 pounds.

With that said, I do feel that the RDSport motor, however great it is, takes away some of that "M"-ness. (The slower revs and slightly lazier engine). I'm not 100 percent sure, if I keep the car, this is the route I would take. I still need to drive one of the FI cars. The downside to FI is the added weight in the wrong areas and engine reliability. However, since FI doesn't change the change where the car makes power, I think the M characteristics will be more intacted. It just amplifies everything.

Sharkwerks in the bay area has a 3.9 liter engine mod for the 997.1 GT3/RS. 510HP, 8900RPM and ~3100 lbs. There's a thread on 6Speed about it. I think you'll enjoy that thread.

Thanks for the review and agree with your assessment in so as far as the general shortfalls of the stock M. I wouldn´t rearlly know if the stroker feels "lazy" since I have not yet driven mine. We will see.

KonigsTiger · 08-26-2009, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by the infamous...

Beauty and a beast.

Wow, looks simply amazing to me!!!

Epacy2 · 08-26-2009, 08:18 PM

Good thread!

duk · 08-26-2009, 08:57 PM

great thread and info

Poppin Fresh · 08-26-2009, 09:17 PM

Is that the stock bumper or the RD sport bumper? It looks too good to be OEM.

*edit*

NVM, i just realized it's the RD sport. It's got the dropped jaw/basking shark look. Love it!

persian54 · 08-27-2009, 12:42 AM

What a beautiful car

Love the color :P

BMW Fanatic · 08-27-2009, 12:57 AM

Wow, so pissed that I never saw your car in Calgary! Looks beastttttttt

nvk · 08-27-2009, 01:06 AM

great looking car! have fun on your trip and be safe.

ase2dais · 08-27-2009, 06:06 AM

what a dream drive!
.. a Great Long Open Road with an Awesome Machine.

BMW3R · 08-27-2009, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by michaeldorian

Yes. When I first purchased the M, I was a bit disappointed in the power for everyday driving. I personally feel the car is lacking about 50lbs torque and 50hp across the entire rev range. It just has too much weight to push around. You have to rev it to the sky, which can feel tiring and straining everyday.

Thanks for the posts and great pics.

I agree with your comments above and this has been my biggest complaint about the M3. I am currently leasing my M3 and I don't want to put any money into the car. I am debating a buy of the next car (2011 M3) in one year that I would like to mod. However, I am also up in the air regarding whether the M3 would be on the list unless if BMW were to move to a forced air engine.

Anyway, thanks again for your comments and pics.

mach330 · 08-27-2009, 11:03 AM

awesome ride nd54. glad to see the final finished product turned out great.

MMOTION · 08-27-2009, 11:13 AM

sooo clean and beautifully executed!

remmib · 08-27-2009, 11:50 AM

Awesome looking M3. And what a trip.

phrozen06 · 08-27-2009, 12:24 PM

E92 ///M perfection

nd54 · 08-27-2009, 12:51 PM

Thanks again for all the nice comments! A special thank you to member michaeldorian for meeting with us in Seattle and showing us some sights, I'm glad you liked the car.

From the Microsoft campus near Seattle, which is an amazing place:

G35 fail:

DRAW BRIDGE!:

Alberta Street. This led to some confusion amongst the locals here:

Nike campus in Beaverton:

Just a quick update for now, heading to San Francisco soon, will post more when I get there.

08-26-2009, 02:52 PM	#27
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08-26-2009, 05:37 PM	#28
Ryan@IND BimmerPost Supporting Vendor 1765 Rep 7,651 Posts Drives: ACR Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chicago iTrader: (18)	Clean and beautiful.. i especially like those RD wheels. Classic step lip with 5-spokes. __________________ IND DISTRIBUTION \| 866-963-4520 • INSTAGRAM • FACEBOOK • FLICKR
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08-26-2009, 08:18 PM	#32
Epacy2 Major 147 Rep 1,400 Posts Drives: F85 X5M Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: KC iTrader: (1) Garage List 2008 M3 [0.00] 2008 M3 [0.00]	Good thread!
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08-26-2009, 08:57 PM	#33
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08-26-2009, 09:17 PM	#34
Poppin Fresh Colonel 86 Rep 2,148 Posts Drives: With a sunroof and front plate Join Date: May 2009 Location: Bergen County NJ iTrader: (0)	Is that the stock bumper or the RD sport bumper? It looks too good to be OEM. edit NVM, i just realized it's the RD sport. It's got the dropped jaw/basking shark look. Love it! __________________ Last edited by Poppin Fresh; 08-26-2009 at 09:37 PM..
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08-27-2009, 12:42 AM	#35
persian54 Lieutenant General 923 Rep 15,818 Posts Drives: M760/G83M4 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: The Valley, SoCal iTrader: (298)	What a beautiful car Love the color :P
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08-27-2009, 12:57 AM	#36
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08-27-2009, 01:06 AM	#37
nvk Private 0 Rep 68 Posts Drives: 2003 Ford Mondeo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Delhi, India iTrader: (0)	great looking car! have fun on your trip and be safe. __________________ Previous rides: 1999 Yamaha R6 1996 Audi A4 2000 Audi A4 1.8tqm 2003 BMW M3 w/SMG
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08-27-2009, 06:06 AM	#38
ase2dais //Mdicted 347 Rep 9,988 Posts Drives: a Cop Magnet Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: 495 Ring iTrader: (18) Garage List 2009 e92 M3 DCT CF ... [10.00] 2015 S-Works Roubaix [0.00] 2013 Trek Madone 5.9 [9.50] 2012 Scott - CR1-Pro [10.00] 2008 e92 M3 6MT (Up ... [10.00] 2002 e46 M3 Cabriol ... [7.00] 2006 e90-325i (DD) [7.00] 2002 e39 M5 (retired) [9.50]	what a dream drive! .. a Great Long Open Road with an Awesome Machine. __________________ Oo\(lll)'(lll)/oO : 2009-e92 ///M3 SpaceGry DCT CF Rf/Trim ZTP ZPP ZCW Sat/PrmSd : \_lOOl___lOOl_/<< Clickies
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08-27-2009, 11:03 AM	#40
mach330 You don't know JACK!!! 43 Rep 796 Posts Drives: 2011 X5 35i Join Date: May 2005 Location: The OC iTrader: (3)	awesome ride nd54. glad to see the final finished product turned out great. __________________ Rated /// M
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08-27-2009, 11:13 AM	#41
MMOTION Lieutenant Colonel 109 Rep 1,801 Posts Drives: like you'll never drive again Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: uptown iTrader: (26)	sooo clean and beautifully executed!
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08-27-2009, 11:50 AM	#42
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08-27-2009, 12:24 PM	#43
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08-27-2009, 12:51 PM	#44
nd54 Captain 76 Rep 649 Posts Drives: RDSport RS 46 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (6)	Thanks again for all the nice comments! A special thank you to member michaeldorian for meeting with us in Seattle and showing us some sights, I'm glad you liked the car. From the Microsoft campus near Seattle, which is an amazing place: G35 fail: DRAW BRIDGE!: Alberta Street. This led to some confusion amongst the locals here: Nike campus in Beaverton: Just a quick update for now, heading to San Francisco soon, will post more when I get there.
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