I am Very Confused about this ordering process and Debut on Friday

m_bazeepaymon · 11-13-2007, 01:33 PM

If the M3 is Debuting for North America This Friday, why havent all the dealerships start allocations yet ? (besides dummy allocations being ready to be enterned for the system)

Or am i falling behind the allocation process?

Are we waiting for the pricing that will be hopefully be released at LA Autoshow ?

:sad0147:

UltimateBMW · 11-13-2007, 01:48 PM

The car won't arrive on dealer lots until March. With that it is likely that allocation slots will be handed out around mid December. It is very possible that the final US MSRP will be released at the LA auto show since that is the Debut for the M3 in the US. Similar to how the Frankfurt auto show was the World Debut for the new M3, but poeple didn't start receiving their cars until October. A month or so after.

There is obviously a vast time delay being employed here by BMW and its likely they want take to either work out any consumer issues that first buy owners have with the car, or any pricing issues to make sure it sells like hot cakes in the States.

Davo2003 · 11-13-2007, 01:56 PM

Undoubtedly BMW has a floating chart that factors in many things that change day by day. My guess is their number crunchers are watching European sales, worldwide sales, the Euro-Dollar exchange rate etc...they will figure out what profit they can project worldwide per unit after taking all those items into account including the proposed US base price, and averaging their per unit profit.

nusevad · 11-13-2007, 02:04 PM

I think pricing release is very close. A indication was the dealers calling people on their list to see what options they wanted. So i wouldn't dout it if official price will be released Friday, or even sometime this month.

lucid · 11-13-2007, 02:07 PM

I think we will see some cars in the dealers late Feb. I spoke with my dealer yesterday, and he said they officially got their first allocation. However, allocation does not seem to mean production, so there is some lag there. He was saying late Feb delivery is likely for that first allocation.

UltimateBMW · 11-13-2007, 02:12 PM

Late February... thats not too bad. Just like BMW being generous with their arrival estimations with most of the Euro cars that are on these boards. I think most ended up arriving like 2 weeks early.

Yay BMW!

lucid · 11-13-2007, 02:16 PM

Yes, it is reasonable to assume they would be conservative in their press releases. But I don't know that they said anything more specific than Spring'08 officially. The real question is will DCT be on that first car?

UltimateBMW · 11-13-2007, 02:19 PM

Hopefully BMW will drop a nice big bomb on us at the LA show, and sport one of their M3s with it.

southlight · 11-13-2007, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucid

Yes, it is reasonable to assume they would be conservative in their press releases. But I don't know that they said anything more specific than Spring'08 officially. The real question is will DCT be on that first car?

According to BMW's PR not:
"Power from the BMW M3 Coupe and Sedan’s V8 is transmitted to the rear wheels
through a close-ratio six-speed manual gearbox."

Best regards, south

lucid · 11-13-2007, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by southlight

According to BMW's PR not:
"Power from the BMW M3 Coupe and Sedan’s V8 is transmitted to the rear wheels
through a close-ratio six-speed manual gearbox."

Best regards, south

Yes, but you can't expect DCT info to be on a PR doc dated Nov 2nd since it is not announced yet globally. The fact that they don't mention DCT there doesn't exclude the possibility of the first batch of US cars having DCT. It could simply be announced with an additional PR in Jan or something. Or we wait until summer. Either way, BMW will release another PR on DCT at some point.

m_bazeepaymon · 11-13-2007, 02:38 PM

all we have to do is wait till Friday...

southlight · 11-13-2007, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucid

Yes, but you can't expect DCT info to be on a PR doc dated Nov 2nd since it is not announced yet globally. The fact that they don't mention DCT there doesn't exclude the possibility of the first batch of US cars having DCT. It could simply be announced with an additional PR in Jan or something. Or we wait until summer. Either way, BMW will release another PR on DCT at some point.

With an SOP 12/07 in mind the PR would now have to mention DCT if it was featured in the first cars. Sorry, you'll have to wait...

Best regards, south

GregW / Oregon · 11-13-2007, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by southlight

With an SOP 12/07 in mind the PR would now have to mention DCT if it was featured in the first cars. Sorry, you'll have to wait...

If the 3/08 date for DCT is a valid rumor, I would bet that's the start of production. With US car production starting in 12/07, the question is whether they will make it available mid-year in the US or wait for '09.

I don't believe there have been any spy shots of a DCT setup in an M3 interior yet, have there?

UltimateBMW · 11-13-2007, 03:07 PM

No spy shots of it at all. No one has a clue what the shifter and paddles will look like.

Personally, I really hope it doesn't look like the M5 knob. That thing looks way too bulbous and a bit to feminine to be in the M3. I always thought the e46 SMG knob was pretty well conceived.

e60 M5 SMG Shifter:

e46 M3 SMG:

lucid · 11-13-2007, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by southlight

With an SOP 12/07 in mind the PR would now have to mention DCT if it was featured in the first cars. Sorry, you'll have to wait...

Best regards, south

No, no, no, no, noooooo!

I we all just focus hard enough...

nusevad · 11-13-2007, 03:26 PM

I dunno if i can wait till 09....these 7 months has been hard enough!

JEllis · 11-13-2007, 03:56 PM

I wouldnt be surprised if the official price of the M3 is released this week. I also wouldnt be surprised if BMW launched the MDCT in BMW's largest market.

Jason

Keto · 11-13-2007, 06:06 PM

I could live with SOP 3/08 for DCT but it would hurt.

UltimateBMW · 11-13-2007, 06:20 PM

Well, judging by the 6MT vs. DCT poll alone it would seem clear which option is going to be the bigger bread winner. I'm sure BMW knows that from SMG sales so personally I would be very surprised if the M-DCT wasn't ready by 1st quarter 08.

phoenixbmwlife · 11-13-2007, 07:18 PM

At the Miami car show on Sat, a guy from BMW said that release dates were pushed back to Summer. I am hoping that he doesn't kno what the hell he was talking about.

spridell · 11-14-2007, 12:43 AM

Hey guys first time poster.

My dealer called me today and said he put my reservation into the computer to generate an order and it came back saying M-DCT will NOT be available on the first run of production cars for the US.

I hope BMW changes this or at least M-DCT becomes available by the start of summer.

Tobizach · 11-14-2007, 01:08 AM

Hopefully some of the 1st year bugs should be weeded out by the time we get them, esp when the DCT equipped model comes out.

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UltimateBMW Brigadier General 401 Rep 3,288 Posts Drives: MP4 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: South iTrader: (0)	The car won't arrive on dealer lots until March. With that it is likely that allocation slots will be handed out around mid December. It is very possible that the final US MSRP will be released at the LA auto show since that is the Debut for the M3 in the US. Similar to how the Frankfurt auto show was the World Debut for the new M3, but poeple didn't start receiving their cars until October. A month or so after. There is obviously a vast time delay being employed here by BMW and its likely they want take to either work out any consumer issues that first buy owners have with the car, or any pricing issues to make sure it sells like hot cakes in the States.
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Davo2003 Captain 52 Rep 652 Posts Drives: 2008 M3 Coupe Jerez and loaded Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Texas iTrader: (0)	Undoubtedly BMW has a floating chart that factors in many things that change day by day. My guess is their number crunchers are watching European sales, worldwide sales, the Euro-Dollar exchange rate etc...they will figure out what profit they can project worldwide per unit after taking all those items into account including the proposed US base price, and averaging their per unit profit. __________________ Crying is for babies, little girls, men who have just had their ears ripped off, and men who have toasted MDCT's due to service errors.
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lucid Major General 374 Rep 8,033 Posts Drives: E30 M3; Expedition Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	I think we will see some cars in the dealers late Feb. I spoke with my dealer yesterday, and he said they officially got their first allocation. However, allocation does not seem to mean production, so there is some lag there. He was saying late Feb delivery is likely for that first allocation.
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UltimateBMW Brigadier General 401 Rep 3,288 Posts Drives: MP4 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: South iTrader: (0)	Late February... thats not too bad. Just like BMW being generous with their arrival estimations with most of the Euro cars that are on these boards. I think most ended up arriving like 2 weeks early. Yay BMW!
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lucid Major General 374 Rep 8,033 Posts Drives: E30 M3; Expedition Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Yes, it is reasonable to assume they would be conservative in their press releases. But I don't know that they said anything more specific than Spring'08 officially. The real question is will DCT be on that first car?
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UltimateBMW Brigadier General 401 Rep 3,288 Posts Drives: MP4 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: South iTrader: (0)	Hopefully BMW will drop a nice big bomb on us at the LA show, and sport one of their M3s with it.
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UltimateBMW Brigadier General 401 Rep 3,288 Posts Drives: MP4 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: South iTrader: (0)	No spy shots of it at all. No one has a clue what the shifter and paddles will look like. Personally, I really hope it doesn't look like the M5 knob. That thing looks way too bulbous and a bit to feminine to be in the M3. I always thought the e46 SMG knob was pretty well conceived. e60 M5 SMG Shifter: e46 M3 SMG:
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UltimateBMW Brigadier General 401 Rep 3,288 Posts Drives: MP4 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: South iTrader: (0)	Well, judging by the 6MT vs. DCT poll alone it would seem clear which option is going to be the bigger bread winner. I'm sure BMW knows that from SMG sales so personally I would be very surprised if the M-DCT wasn't ready by 1st quarter 08.
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spridell http://Claravenger.com 0 Rep 1 Posts Drives: 330ci Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New York iTrader: (0)	Hey guys first time poster. My dealer called me today and said he put my reservation into the computer to generate an order and it came back saying M-DCT will NOT be available on the first run of production cars for the US. I hope BMW changes this or at least M-DCT becomes available by the start of summer. Last edited by spridell; 11-14-2007 at 01:21 AM..
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