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      06-18-2020, 04:38 AM   #1
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Installed my Bilstein B12 Pro-Kit today, with H&R Sport Spings.

For those not familiar with the Bilstein B12 Pro-Kit, it's just basically a matched set of Bilstein B8 shocks plus Eibach Pro-Kits for our E92/E90 M3s. The front shocks are inverted monotube I think since the shaft is HUGE.

For about $900 you get a set of B8 shocks plus Eibach Pro-Kits which seems like a solid deal.

I had a set of H&R Sport (not Sport Plus) springs and wanted to pair them up with these shocks instead of the included Pro-Kits for a slightly lower drop.

Installation was a breeze, everything matched up perfectly. Did the whole install in about 3 hours total. The drop came out very nice, not too low but just about the perfect height for a daily driver yet still looks good. Hoping it doesn't settle much more because it's exactly the height I was aiming for. 2 fingers up front and 1 in the rear.

First driving impression, my car is a stripper non-EDC E90 so compared to the stock ride, the combo is just a tad bit stiffer but everything feels much tighter, it feels like a new car. The ride is well-damped and firm over bumps without any harshness or crashing. Imperfections on the roads are well absorbed and tolerated. Reminds me a lot of my BRZ on KW V3s. Took it for a half-hour drive down Pacific Coast Highway and wow, so smooth and the steering feels like there is a bit more feedback. No noise, no issues. So far I'm extremely impressed with the setup. I will update this thread with more driving impressions this week.









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      06-18-2020, 10:08 AM   #2
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Nice job! That is a fantastic kit for non-EDC cars. Curious to see if it settles some more, looks higher than my H&Rs on stock EDC shocks. And yup, Bilsteins got that thicc shaft (heh) as they are indeed inverted monotube designs.
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Thank you for posting feedback

I sound like a broken record but have been saying for years that the B12 kit is what most M3 owners should use as a slight upgrade to stock. They are excellent dampers, last a long time, work on the street or track and they don't break your wallet.
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Nice job! That is a fantastic kit for non-EDC cars. Curious to see if it settles some more, looks higher than my H&Rs on stock EDC shocks. And yup, Bilsteins got that thicc shaft (heh) as they are indeed inverted monotube designs.
I read somewhere that the B8 shock actually raises your car a tiny bit, therefore I used the H&Rs instead of the included Eibachs in anticipation.
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looks pretty perfect to me. the front is slightly lower than stock zcp but overall pretty much perfect

WAKman have you seen this?
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I sound like a broken record but have been saying for years that the B12 kit is what most M3 owners should use as a slight upgrade to stock. They are excellent dampers, last a long time, work on the street or track and they don't break your wallet.
I'm considering this along with an EDC module/coding. Is there an EDC equivalent to the B12 kit?
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I'm considering this along with an EDC module/coding. Is there an EDC equivalent to the B12 kit?
Yes.
The B12 kit = B8 HD dampers + Eibach springs

They also have the B6 EDC dampers which are OEM EDC compatible, then you can add your own H&R/Eibach springs.
The B6 EDC will work with ZCP coding or with regular coding, the dampers don't mind which
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looks pretty perfect to me. the front is slightly lower than stock zcp but overall pretty much perfect

WAKman have you seen this?
Nice setup! I still think I want to retain EDC, though, so am looking at the considerably more spendy B6 setup.

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looks pretty perfect to me. the front is slightly lower than stock zcp but overall pretty much perfect

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Nice setup! I still think I want to retain EDC, though, so am looking at the considerably more spendy B6 setup.

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twice as much to retain EDC? I'd have to have the option but is it worth it for basically twice as much?
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...2 fingers up front and 1 in the rear.
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are those H&R spring taller? the Eibach Pro set are like 1finger front and half ish in the back
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are those H&R spring taller? the Eibach Pro set are like 1finger front and half ish in the back
Not sure, from the spec sheet they should be the same drop in the rear with H&R being slightly lower than Eibachs in the front.

This Sunday I'll be swapping in the Eibachs because I'm curious.
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Not sure, from the spec sheet they should be the same drop in the rear with H&R being slightly lower than Eibachs in the front.

This Sunday I'll be swapping in the Eibachs because I'm curious.
did you use camber plate in the front. I suspect the Vorshlag camber plate is shorter than the stock struct mount. Never measured it before putting on mine
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twice as much to retain EDC? I'd have to have the option but is it worth it for basically twice as much?
Only you can decide that.

When my suspensions were stock, on my E92 I had oem zcp edc and really liked it. At the same time in my E90 I had oem non edc suspensions which I also liked

How often do you change from 0 lights to 1 light to 2 lights? Non edc is like 1-1.5 lights
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twice as much to retain EDC? I'd have to have the option but is it worth it for basically twice as much?
Only you can decide that.

When my suspensions were stock, on my E92 I had oem zcp edc and really liked it. At the same time in my E90 I had oem non edc suspensions which I also liked

How often do you change from 0 lights to 1 light to 2 lights? Non edc is like 1-1.5 lights
Honestly, hardly ever. Although the ability to change to softer settings is nice, I prefer driving on the stiffest setting. Leaning towards B12 and coding out EDC.
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Honestly, hardly ever. Although the ability to change to softer settings is nice, I prefer driving on the stiffest setting. Leaning towards B12 and coding out EDC.
In that case, B12 kit and call it a day. Code out edc.

It's very well judged, and I've instructed two E9X students with them at the track and they did really well. Both cases were matched with ground control street plates of course
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Honestly, hardly ever. Although the ability to change to softer settings is nice, I prefer driving on the stiffest setting. Leaning towards B12 and coding out EDC.
In that case, B12 kit and call it a day. Code out edc.

It's very well judged, and I've instructed two E9X students with them at the track and they did really well. Both cases were matched with ground control street plates of course
that. yeah it makes a huge difference with camber+caster plate in place.

I wonder if I should code out EDC or keep using the delete kit though. I might switch to B16 when the bas goes bad.
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Honestly, hardly ever. Although the ability to change to softer settings is nice, I prefer driving on the stiffest setting. Leaning towards B12 and coding out EDC.
In that case, B12 kit and call it a day. Code out edc.

It's very well judged, and I've instructed two E9X students with them at the track and they did really well. Both cases were matched with ground control street plates of course
So should I get ground control street plates as well, for street use? Or would that be overkill just for a mostly weekend ride?
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So should I get ground control street plates as well, for street use? Or would that be overkill just for a mostly weekend ride?
For street use i prefer no camber plates as they introduce a tiny amount of nvh
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For street use i prefer no camber plates as they introduce a tiny amount of nvh
agree, not even needed on street driven cars. just pulling the alignment pins and pushing the struts and maxing out the camber is more than enough.
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