Does anybody else find the M3 very jerky in 1st gear?

Pyramidjames · 09-17-2010, 09:06 AM

In first gear the car is very uncomfortable to drive, when cold if I’m not extremely gentle on the clutch/accelerator I kangaroo up the road, i spoke to BMW and they say its designed that way??

Cingulus · 09-17-2010, 09:12 AM

Yeah, You do have to finesse first gear, every car has quirks and this is one of ours if you have a 6MT

MonteCarloM3 · 09-17-2010, 09:16 AM

definitely does that, but gets better once it warms up.

mkoesel · 09-17-2010, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Cingulus

Yeah, You do have to finesse first gear, every car has quirks and this is one of ours if you have a 6MT

The DCT does the same thing too.

OP, are you using Sport or Sport+ Power? If you are, try setting it to normal until the car is warmed up. It should help quite a bit.

BMW-NC · 09-17-2010, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mkoesel

The DCT does the same thing too.

OP, are you using Sport or Sport+ Power? If you are, try setting it to normal until the car is warmed up. It should help quite a bit.

Why would you use the M-Mode anyhow on a cold car? Switch it back, enjoy the ease and save fuel!

Pyramidjames · 09-17-2010, 09:53 AM

I am using normal mode.

mkoesel · 09-17-2010, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BMW-NC

Why would you use the M-Mode anyhow on a cold car? Switch it back, enjoy the ease and save fuel!

You don't need to activate the M Button in order to change the Power setting though. You can set it to start in Sport by default (that's how mine is).

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Originally Posted by Pyramidjames

I am using normal mode.

Yeah, then you just sort of have to go easier on the throttle. I find also that putting your foot to the floor helps avoid the bucking car-onco syndrome too. It's just that its not something I can really do when driving through the neighborhood in the morning.

duk · 09-17-2010, 10:17 AM

ya first gear is jerky until car is warmed up, normal

GhostyM · 09-17-2010, 10:19 AM

one day, i decided to let the bucking get a little excessive.. man that was fun.
LOL.

The bucking normally would happen in 2nd. And that's livable, but in 1st.. ROFL.

SenorFunkyPants · 09-17-2010, 10:50 AM

Mine doesn't do it at all...so its not a standard "feature".

henryyxyu · 09-17-2010, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SenorFunkyPants

Mine doesn't do it at all...so its not a standard "feature".

would you happen to know how much it costs to retrofit this feature on?

yeah, even on the DCT, it tends to be a little jerky in the morning. just drive it out and it should be fine.

ISAR · 09-17-2010, 12:48 PM

You could work on improving your skills.

yousef · 09-17-2010, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chipped B6

one day, i decided to let the bucking get a little excessive.. man that was fun.
LOL.

The bucking normally would happen in 2nd. And that's livable, but in 1st.. ROFL.

You are gonna love to drive GTR in the morning setting everything to extreme. Try it where nobody sees you though. It's quite embarrassing.

J-9 · 09-17-2010, 01:15 PM

OP: Yeah same here, just throw it in 2nd or switch to D until the car warms up. It's pretty embarassing until you get used to it.

skywalker562 · 09-17-2010, 04:51 PM

same here. mine is 6MT. so i usually shift to 2nd. many folks say "put more gas, and it will go away" i havne't tried that but you may =)

Krozi · 09-17-2010, 04:54 PM

With first gear, you need to be really gentle on the throttle....it's either you drive slowly or you GUN it...there is not in-between.

ThunderMoose · 09-17-2010, 07:48 PM

it was real bad with my E46 SMG. My wife once asked me to show her what my car had...after I whipped her neck back and forth 3 or 4 times, she was screaming for me to stop.

The DCT hasn't been nearly as bad.

NYCMCBM3 · 09-17-2010, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MonteCarloM3

definitely does that, but gets better once it warms up.

agreeed, its like that on my DCT

calintexas · 09-17-2010, 08:28 PM

Mine doesn't do it. My car is seldom really cold though as it is garaged. I'm light and smooth on the throttle and stay below 3,000 RPM until the oil temp is at the mark between 180 & 210. It has M-DCT.

rp210 · 09-18-2010, 09:36 PM

i noticed the jerkiness in "S" and "D" modes ... even after the car warmed up .... i'm scheduled for a software update on monday - maybe that'll help .....

dimabimmer · 09-18-2010, 10:11 PM

yes it is a bit jumpy in first when in M mode all power up, so have to be carefull in traffic etc, not to hit the car in front or a pedestrian, seriously

dcstep · 09-18-2010, 10:42 PM

Practice being smoother with the throttle. You've got lots of hp and a low gear, so throttle movements should be really small and smooth. I drive down my parking structure in first and second and try not to touch the brakes, but keeping it very smooth all the way.

With a little work, sensitivity and concentration it'll smooth out. That's the way powerful cars should be.

I remember my daughters trying to drive my E Street Prepared Mustang 5.0. They'd buck and leap down the road after getting out of their Toyotas and Hondas.

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Pyramidjames New Member 4 Rep 6 Posts Drives: BMW M3 2007 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Warrington iTrader: (0)	Does anybody else find the M3 very jerky in 1st gear? In first gear the car is very uncomfortable to drive, when cold if I’m not extremely gentle on the clutch/accelerator I kangaroo up the road, i spoke to BMW and they say its designed that way??
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Cingulus Private 2 Rep 83 Posts Drives: 2011 M3, 06 A3, 03 350Z TT, Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Temecula, CA iTrader: (0)	Yeah, You do have to finesse first gear, every car has quirks and this is one of ours if you have a 6MT
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Pyramidjames New Member 4 Rep 6 Posts Drives: BMW M3 2007 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Warrington iTrader: (0)	I am using normal mode.
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skywalker562 Private First Class 20 Rep 194 Posts Drives: 08 AW M3 E93 6MT Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: OC CA iTrader: (0)	same here. mine is 6MT. so i usually shift to 2nd. many folks say "put more gas, and it will go away" i havne't tried that but you may =)
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Krozi Colonel 167 Rep 2,736 Posts Drives: 2008 E92 ///M3 Alpine White Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: SoFla - Bonita Springs iTrader: (24)	With first gear, you need to be really gentle on the throttle....it's either you drive slowly or you GUN it...there is not in-between. __________________ 2008 E92 ///M3 Alpine White//Fox Red//6MT// Florida Bimmer - Join us on FaceBook!
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ThunderMoose Lieutenant Colonel 746 Rep 1,848 Posts Drives: PY E46 M3 and SG E46 M3 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: League City, TX iTrader: (0)	it was real bad with my E46 SMG. My wife once asked me to show her what my car had...after I whipped her neck back and forth 3 or 4 times, she was screaming for me to stop. The DCT hasn't been nearly as bad.
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calintexas Lieutenant Colonel 151 Rep 1,599 Posts Drives: 2019 X3 M40i Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: North Texas iTrader: (1)	Mine doesn't do it. My car is seldom really cold though as it is garaged. I'm light and smooth on the throttle and stay below 3,000 RPM until the oil temp is at the mark between 180 & 210. It has M-DCT. __________________
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rp210 New Member 2 Rep 27 Posts Drives: 2009 E93 M3 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: USA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 M3 [0.00]	i noticed the jerkiness in "S" and "D" modes ... even after the car warmed up .... i'm scheduled for a software update on monday - maybe that'll help ..... __________________ '09 BMW E93 M3 '08 MB R350 W251
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dcstep Major General 1291 Rep 7,389 Posts Drives: '09 Cpe Silverstone FR 6MT Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Colorado iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 M3 [8.40]	Practice being smoother with the throttle. You've got lots of hp and a low gear, so throttle movements should be really small and smooth. I drive down my parking structure in first and second and try not to touch the brakes, but keeping it very smooth all the way. With a little work, sensitivity and concentration it'll smooth out. That's the way powerful cars should be. I remember my daughters trying to drive my E Street Prepared Mustang 5.0. They'd buck and leap down the road after getting out of their Toyotas and Hondas. __________________ Flickr Photos Ucm, Inc.
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