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12-04-2007, 06:06 PM | #1 |
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Durability: Speed Cloth vs. Leather
I'm on the fence as far as choosing my interior upholstery. I really like the Fox Red leather, but I'm concerned about durability. The Speed Cloth is also nice, but doesn't excite me as much as the red leather. It's quite possible the M3 will be the last "commuter" car I purchase. Next up, in about 10 years, will be some sort of roadster with the M3 then becomming my "beater". I'm only 35, so this car will be with me for quite some time. I digress, sorry. Looking back on when I purchased my Alpine White 325i in January '01, sometimes I feel like kicking myself for not getting the Tannin Red Leather. Then again, I look at my 'ette today and it is in perfect shape after 6 years and 80k+.
Bottom line is I don't want a faded and severely cracked red leather interior after 10 years. I religiously treat the leather in my wifes Escalade with Zaino's leather treatment, so maintenance isn't an issue. Then again, with the Speed Cloth, I guess I still need to worry about the bolsters and other leather bits cracking. But, I think after a few years, the Speed Cloth will look better. Opinions please!! |
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I've owned my car for around 7 years now. I have gray leather interior and I NEVER have treated it.
The leather is perfectly fine. No cracking at all. I have the slightest bit of wear on the the outside driver side kidney wing, but that is really all the damage I have. So I would say if you treat your leather frequently you won't have any problems going 10+ years. (However, while my home is Texas I haven't lived there for 5+ years (Ohio 1 year, NY 4 years). So the majority of my car's life has been spent up north where it doesn't get over 100 consistently for days on end too much and the temperature fluctuates a lot more.) Seeing that your in PA though, I would imagine similar conditions. |
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To the OP, Given that the most wear occurs on the bolsters, its unlikely the speed cloth will wear any better as I beleive the bolsters are leather. Go figure. -Adam |
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12-04-2007, 08:40 PM | #4 | |
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The Novillo (sp?) leather in the M3 is new..correct? I think the M5 still has Nappa......... |
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No recent pics, but these were the seats at 2 1/2 years. I treat them with Leatherique about once a year.
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12-04-2007, 09:41 PM | #7 | |
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For what it's worth, over the same period of time, the Merino leather in my M5 has held up much better than the Nappa leather in my RS4. I haven't treated or cleaned the leather on either car yet. The M5's Merino seems more resistant to scuffing, scratching, and especially folding and creasing. Two years and 13k miles later, it still has that strong smell of new car leather when I get in. Not so much the RS4 after 12k miles. Its Nappa smells like butt sweat, looks kinda weathered, and has so more wrinkles and creases than my 45 year old thrice divorced office assistant with 7 kids. I'm very curious to see what Novillo is like. Hopefully it'll be more like Merino. |
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12-04-2007, 11:02 PM | #8 |
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Greg, your seats really held up well! I guess if anyone gets leather and you want them to last its best to treat them every once in awhile.
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"Wide range of customisation within the interior The new BMW M3 is available in three exclusive equipment and trim variants differing significantly from the “regular” BMW 3 Series Coupé in their material, colour and finish. The sporting, “basic” trim is a combination of cloth and leather called “Speed”. Newly developed, fully tanned Novillo leather then comes as an option offering a particularly smooth and velvety surface in elegant and sporting style. Apart from classic Black, Novillo leather is also available in Palladium Silver, Bamboo Beige, and Fox Red. As a further option, Novillo leather can be extended to the lower section of the instrument panel, the cover on the glove compartment, and the side covers on the centre console."
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There was not even a comparison: my pants belt simply stained the Natural Brown lower lumbar section permanently, but the same belt in the Nappa did not do anything at all. Quote:
Now it is back to regular programming (Black, Grey, Red and an off Beige/Pepto Bismol)... |
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I'll take speed cloth! My '03 had IR leather, but I didn't have it long enough to experience any cracking. My '05 had the ///M cloth inserts, and I preferred that over the full leather seating surface (...another reason why I'm opting for speed cloth).
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12-06-2007, 06:13 PM | #18 | |
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I'm really on the fence and need some good food for thought! |
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12-07-2007, 07:49 AM | #21 |
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do you have kids? because most people that are in my car usually touch the doors handles, not the dashboard...i don't imagine it will be too hard to keep clean. i'm saying +2, piano black is sexy and its a shame its not offered.
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Piano Black trim
It's available as an Individual option--fairly spendy, though.
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