Dinan to introduce new BMW M3 V8 520hp Stroker

[lucid]

The M5 mod is not just an increased stroke (by 8mm), but also an increased bore (well buy just 1mm, but still). It also requires messing seriously with the intake, and based on the interview in the OP, that might not be necessary for the M3.

http://www.dinancars.com/store/High-...59-p-3835.html

Also, this is not a mod of your current engine. This is a modified new engine. I don't know if they require you trade your engine in; I assume they do. Would most likely be at least $25k for the M3 if not more.

If they use the same parts in the M3 mod as they used in the M5 mod, which is what he seems to be saying in the video, that would mean M3 engine's displacement would go up to 4.5 liters.

[ALPINE6SPD]

Originally Posted by SteelTorque

Yeah, and it will cost 20k. Give me a break.

why give you a break? Why not charge a lot if people are willing to pay it? The biggest rip off parts for car are actually wheels. If you really think about it 5k for a set of forged wheels and tires is even more crazy. People here drop 4-6k in rims and dont even think about it. Granted if I had the cash I would do the same thing but you make it sound like Dinan is the only company selling overpriced items.

My Dinan exhaust runs about the same money as the Eisenmann yet I dont ever hear people compaing about the price of the Eisenmann like they do with Dinan why is this. I Know the eisenmann all shiny underneath and "look" nicer but Dinan does not "look" as good but the quality on both is top notch.

The other nice thing about Dinan is that they are truthfull about HP claims instead of lying like most comapnies about fake unproven gains. I have heard both exhaust and have the Dinan on my car and I really like the Eisenmann as well so this is nothing against them as I am just making a point. Basically all cosmetic mods are the biggest rip-off IMO. A CF engine cover for $500 that is more crazy that some Dinan performance parts IMO.

[SS32]

They've got some badass engineering going on there. I respect Steve Dinan a lot more after watching that.

[ybbiz34]

Originally Posted by lucid

Dinan mods come with Dinan warranty. I believe Dinan simply matches the remaining of BMW's warranty. But that means you would need to get the car serviced at a Dinan approved shops. Someone was saying that some BMW dealers are Dinan approved service centers?

You are correct in that some BMW dealers are Dinan approved service centers. As a matter of fact, a majority of the Dinan dealers across the country are authorized BMW dealers as well. There are two Dinan/BMW dealers within 45 minutes where I live.

[ybbiz34]

Originally Posted by ALPINE6SPD

why give you a break? Why not charge a lot if people are willing to pay it? The biggest rip off parts for car are actually wheels. If you really think about it 5k for a set of forged wheels and tires is even more crazy. People here drop 4-6k in rims and dont even think about it. Granted if I had the cash I would do the same thing but you make it sound like Dinan is the only company selling overpriced items.

My Dinan exhaust runs about the same money as the Eisenmann yet I dont ever hear people compaing about the price of the Eisenmann like they do with Dinan why is this. I Know the eisenmann all shiny underneath and "look" nicer but Dinan does not "look" as good but the quality on both is top notch.

The other nice thing about Dinan is that they are truthfull about HP claims instead of lying like most comapnies about fake unproven gains. I have heard both exhaust and have the Dinan on my car and I really like the Eisenmann as well so this is nothing against them as I am just making a point. Basically all cosmetic mods are the biggest rip-off IMO. A CF engine cover for $500 that is more crazy that some Dinan performance parts IMO.

Plus, yeah it will be costly, because it is basically a new engine.

[billspreston]

520hp N/A M3 - that's what I'm talking about!!!

[FastLane]

how about some torque gains and the resulatant effect on hp/tq curves...

[ik999]

Originally Posted by bobbo

That's pretty awesome... not supra awesome but could it be a GTR contester?

the GT-R is a really hard to compare to

the awd system really sets it apart from the other cars

not to mention the potential for huge HP

compare the e46 M3 and the r34 GT-R and you'll see that I mean

[M-Maika]

Do you DINAN guys have dealers in Europe ???



Best Regards, Maika

[GewoW]

and canada!

[KonigsTiger]

Originally Posted by OzStriker

Have you ordered one yet BMW-M-Mexico?

hahahahaha!!! Finally Dinan speaks!!!!!! Am looking at it very, very siriously!!!! We will see how much!!!! Last time a called Dinan they know NOTHING about when or how much etc.... But $35K, no way!!!!! Maybe half that!!!!!

[KonigsTiger]

Can anyone tell me what a "Stroker" engine means!! I presuem it means sayting NA where you change internals like pistons, rings, rods, crank, cams, hone valves etc... to increase engine speed!!! But don´t really know!!!

[JEllis]

Originally Posted by ik999

the GT-R is a really hard to compare to

the awd system really sets it apart from the other cars

not to mention the potential for huge HP

compare the e46 M3 and the r34 GT-R and you'll see that I mean

Well put...

A lot of people dont really understand that the R34 GTR had basically the same performance advantage over the E46 M3 that the new R35 has over the E92 M. Not much has changed. People act like like the GTR wooping ass is something new. The R34 could keep up with the Porsche's, Ferrari's, and Vettes of its era. Its amazing how US marketing and journalism have hyped the GTR in the US.

Jason

[RandyB]

I wonder if the crank is replaced or has offset ground rod journals? Carrillo rods are nice pieces. I wonder who the vendor is for the pistons?

[lucid]

Originally Posted by BMW-M-Mexico

Can anyone tell me what a "Stroker" engine means!! I presuem it means sayting NA where you change internals like pistons, rings, rods, crank, cams, hone valves etc... to increase engine speed!!! But don´t really know!!!

The stroke of the piston is increased, and hence the displacement goes up.

[phoenixbmwlife]

Wow I'm seriously looking into this. This is really bad ass. But I'm sure they will offer maybe 2 stages. One to push the HP to around 450-465 at around $9500. And the final stage at 520 for around $13,500. No way this will sell for $20k cause the market is M3 owners not M6 owners.

100hp more will do a lot for this already incredible machine. With the new dual clutch transmission, the stock M6 will have a hard time staying with it.

This is excellent news!

[M3Mikey]

Originally Posted by M3NTAL

Holy sh!t. Yeah... I don't have a kid so I'll probably have to give my left nut and my girlfriend. It may be worth it however... I better close this window fast.

HAHA thats the funniest shit I've heard all day... do it man its worth it.

[McLuVan]

Originally Posted by Crimson92

+1

[Queenskid24]

oh man..cant wait to see this around..

[KonigsTiger]

Originally Posted by lucid

The stroke of the piston is increased, and hence the displacement goes up.

Thanks, makes total sense now!

[lux.sh]

it'll probably cost as much as another M3.

for that money(say I have the new M3), I'll just buy an E46 M3 and put that motor in the trunk. like that dual-engine tiburon.

1/4mile in 9sec biatttch.

[e46e92love]

Originally Posted by lucid

The M5 mod is not just an increased stroke (by 8mm), but also an increased bore (well buy just 1mm, but still). It also requires messing seriously with the intake, and based on the interview in the OP, that might not be necessary for the M3.

Also, this is not a mod of your current engine. This is a modified new engine. I don't know if they require you trade your engine in; I assume they do. Would most likely be at least $25k for the M3 if not more.

This is what makes me nervous Lucid, the fact that it is no longer an //M engine, its a derivative of an //M engine. Like when they bore her out, what coating do they use to re-coat the cylinder walls?-----is it the same as the stock engine? These are the type of nuances that make an engine what it is and makes me nervous, regardless of how much money I have to do a mod like this.