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      07-18-2018, 08:22 AM   #1
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I am getting ready to pull the trigger on a shift knob. Its between the f10 knob and the f30 Mperformance knob. Right now I am leaning towards the M performance, but regardless either one will require some modification.

Im thinking about picking up an extra e92 OEM boot on ebay so I can keep a stock one if need be.

My main question is about OEM finish. I dont want to install anything thats going to look shoddy. A few installs of the F10 knob either looked billowed right under the knob, or if the other method was done, the base of the shifter looks all jacked up.

What is the best way to do it in terms of fit and finish? If anyone has had either knob, posting your experience with it would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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When I installed my ZHP knob, I put the stock boot on inside out and upside down then zip tied the top then inverted it over the rest of the shifter. This gives the top of the boot a nice rolled edge that meets up nicely with the bottom of the shift knob.
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When I installed my ZHP knob, I put the stock boot on inside out and upside down then zip tied the top then inverted it over the rest of the shifter. This gives the top of the boot a nice rolled edge that meets up nicely with the bottom of the shift knob.
So you went the route of cutting just under the knob correct? (As opposed to taking the base ring out). This certainly seems like the easier and cleaner way, but I feel like a zip tie would make it bulky looking under the leather. I wonder if there are any other options to clamp in down.
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So you went the route of cutting just under the knob correct? (As opposed to taking the base ring out). This certainly seems like the easier and cleaner way, but I feel like a zip tie would make it bulky looking under the leather. I wonder if there are any other options to clamp in down.
Taking the base ring out certainly works if you're buying the F10 knob but the shape is different so you'll have to finagle it to fit on the OEM ring. There are members who have done this and there is a guide so it can be done and it does look very clean. You don't need a very thick zip tie to hold the leather. The fact that the shifter arm is tapered and the base of the shift knob is wide, you won't feel or see it at all.
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So you went the route of cutting just under the knob correct? (As opposed to taking the base ring out). This certainly seems like the easier and cleaner way, but I feel like a zip tie would make it bulky looking under the leather. I wonder if there are any other options to clamp in down.
Taking the base ring out certainly works if you're buying the F10 knob but the shape is different so you'll have to finagle it to fit on the OEM ring. You don't need a very thick zip tie to hold the leather. The fact that the shifter arm is tapered and the base of the shift knob is wide, you won't feel or see it at all.
Cool. Im going to try and tackle this. Now just need to decide which knob. I guess I can hold off on spending the extra 150-200 on an OEM shift boot. If I ever want to go back to stock, I guess its simple enough to just buy one at that point.
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Have you considered the zhp knob? Itís looks similar to the f10 without illumination. You would reuse your boot
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Have you considered the zhp knob? It’s looks similar to the f10 without illumination. You would reuse your boot
I have, but I figured if I went with that style, I would keep it as close to OEM as possible with the f10 knob. Pretty sure you can reuse your boot with the f10 knob by cutting just below the knob.
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My car came with the m perf knob from the previous owner and I hated it. It's too small and short and it really throws off the shifting feel IMO. I went with the F10 M5 knob and I'm happy with it. I did the base ring swap and it took a couple hours (mostly waiting for glue to dry). There's a vid on YouTube that's really helpful, just search M3 F10 M5 shift knob.
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My car came with the m perf knob from the previous owner and I hated it. It's too small and short and it really throws off the shifting feel IMO. I went with the F10 M5 knob and I'm happy with it. I did the base ring swap and it took a couple hours (mostly waiting for glue to dry). There's a vid on YouTube that's really helpful, just search M3 F10 M5 shift knob.
Hmm. Ill take your word for it. I really love the way the mperformance one looks, but Most important thing is improving shift feel.

So you did the other method of swapping rings. I have read this is more difficult to do "cleanly" but your came out excellent.
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My car came with the m perf knob from the previous owner and I hated it. It's too small and short and it really throws off the shifting feel IMO. I went with the F10 M5 knob and I'm happy with it. I did the base ring swap and it took a couple hours (mostly waiting for glue to dry). There's a vid on YouTube that's really helpful, just search M3 F10 M5 shift knob.
Hmm. Ill take your word for it. I really love the way the mperformance one looks, but Most important thing is improving shift feel.

So you did the other method of swapping rings. I have read this is more difficult to do "cleanly" but your came out excellent.
I used these instructions and followed them 100%



I don't think this method is hard, it just takes some time. I also feel like this method has less chances of damaging the actual knob vs the boot removal method and I like the integrated boot feature. It feels like it came this way from the factory.
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Pics of the m performance knob. It does look really nice, I just wish it felt right on this car.
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I also didn't like the M Performance knob. It felt too small, and if you're after OEM look...eh I don't think this is it. I have the ZHP knob complimenting my Auto Solutions shifter. It's the choice.
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I have, but I figured if I went with that style, I would keep it as close to OEM as possible with the f10 knob. Pretty sure you can reuse your boot with the f10 knob by cutting just below the knob.
the f10 knob comes built in with a boot itself. So you're thinking you'd cut the f10 knob off its boot, then install with your boot? Why all the effort. If you go f10 then swap out the rings.

if you don't care about lumination, just go with the zhp know and cut your goose neck knob off, reuse your boot and install the zhp know. its the easiest install option and closest to factory look IMO.
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I wonder if you can lay the original (m3) boot flat and trace it out, then use it as a template to cut the F10 boot. Then it'll just glue on exactly.

I might have to visit one of these sweat shops to do this lols
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https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...r/25112283015/. I want todo this mod. is this the m5 f10 shifter everyone is referring to?
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https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...r/25112283015/. I want todo this mod. is this the m5 f10 shifter everyone is referring to?
Sorry for the delay, but no that's not it. It is this one:
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...d/25112284205/
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