Euro MDM Coefficient of Friction

gazosnic · 11-05-2014, 08:52 AM

Is there different steering settings like this? I'd like my steering feel to be a bit more stiff.

TheBreeze · 12-30-2016, 06:58 PM

So I need some help. For some strange reason, I can't get the MDYNAMIC_MODE_USA change to take. NCSExpert claims that it worked, but when I go back to read it again, it's still set to activ. Here's my MAN file:

RPA
nicht_aktiv
M3_BAUART
wert_03
M3_GETRIEBE
wert_00
M3_UEBERSTEUERN_MUE_0
wert_03
M3_UEBERSTEUERN_MUE_1_2
wert_03
MDYNAMIC_MODE_USA
nicht_aktiv
M3_PRE_MSR
nicht_aktiv
LENKWINKELKENNLINIE
wert_02
wert_03
LAT_EBD
nicht_aktiv
US_VEHICLE
nicht_aktiv
POHO
nicht_aktiv
DDS_PLUS
nicht_aktiv

I can read all the modules fine. I'm using the one-stop cable, so that should be good. I'm using a VM image called "*********V3" that I grabbed from e90post. All indications point to the coding working, but alas the settings don't take.

Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?

TheBreeze · 12-31-2016, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBreeze

So I need some help. For some strange reason, I can't get the MDYNAMIC_MODE_USA change to take. NCSExpert claims that it worked, but when I go back to read it again, it's still set to activ. Here's my MAN file:

RPA
nicht_aktiv
M3_BAUART
wert_03
M3_GETRIEBE
wert_00
M3_UEBERSTEUERN_MUE_0
wert_03
M3_UEBERSTEUERN_MUE_1_2
wert_03
MDYNAMIC_MODE_USA
nicht_aktiv
M3_PRE_MSR
nicht_aktiv
LENKWINKELKENNLINIE
wert_02
wert_03
LAT_EBD
nicht_aktiv
US_VEHICLE
nicht_aktiv
POHO
nicht_aktiv
DDS_PLUS
nicht_aktiv

I can read all the modules fine. I'm using the one-stop cable, so that should be good. I'm using a VM image called "*********V3" that I grabbed from e90post. All indications point to the coding working, but alas the settings don't take.

Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?

Figured it out. NCSExpert expertmode profile was not set up to write from the MAN file.

MPower7 · 10-03-2017, 06:28 PM

How would I go about making this change? Is it worth it with a ZCP Coupe?

-BEASTMW- · 10-04-2017, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPower7

How would I go about making this change? Is it worth it with a ZCP Coupe?

Any experienced coder can do it quickly. It's definitely a pretty big difference, well worth it!

6ixSpd · 10-15-2017, 12:11 AM

I find it made a VERY big difference with the adjusted coefficients. It?s surprisingly fun even with MDM now, whereas before it would cut everything off at the slightest hint of wheelspin...

165_M3 · 11-29-2017, 11:47 AM

any updates on these?

AWDBooSTIn90 · 12-30-2017, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ato///M3

any updates on these?

Also wondering the same. I feel like there is a lot that can be done if we could "re-program" the dsc settings. it controls so many different things, in addition to the traction control system....

OmairK · 03-27-2020, 01:55 AM

Curious if someone with this experience can adjust these settings in my car.

Edit: Will go to BPMSport

M3Enthusiast · 10-26-2020, 04:28 AM

Are these DSC module settings independent of transmission type, i.e. DCT versus manual? I ask because of the "!" or "not" operand associated with "wert_02" implying "not" MAN or not manual or am I reading that wrong?

amrazM · 10-26-2020, 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M3Enthusiast

Are these DSC module settings independent of transmission type, i.e. DCT versus manual? I ask because of the "!" or "not" operand associated with "wert_02" implying "not" MAN or not manual or am I reading that wrong?

no each of these "wert" values carry a certain value to the ecu in question which is the dscmk60. the dsc unit itself processes information from the entire car, torque, engine revs, throttle position, these values ultimately just control what the dsc is doing and what its outputting to the wheels and engine to keep you from crashing the car.

M3Enthusiast · 10-26-2020, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amrazM

no each of these "wert" values carry a certain value to the ecu in question which is the dscmk60. the dsc unit itself processes information from the entire car, torque, engine revs, throttle position, these values ultimately just control what the dsc is doing and what its outputting to the wheels and engine to keep you from crashing the car.

Excuse the way I phrased the question but what I meant was can these same exact values be used on a 6MT as on a DCT car when adjusting the DSCMK60 module to get the same Euro MDM mode benefits?

amrazM · 10-28-2020, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M3Enthusiast

Excuse the way I phrased the question but what I meant was can these same exact values be used on a 6MT as on a DCT car when adjusting the DSCMK60 module to get the same Euro MDM mode benefits?

yes these go both ways

Spyro235 · 12-05-2024, 05:17 PM

Hi All- bumping this super old thread. I havent looked specifically, but I'm curious if anyone has done this DIY in protools.

TboneS54 · 02-22-2025, 11:31 PM

I'm surprised nothing more came out of this thread. Anyone know if it was confirmed that you can adjust these wert sertings to tailor your "slip" so to speak?

I've only read that u.s. is 4 or 5% (no mention of variance from coupe to sedan or 6mt to dsc) and euro, 7%.

And if we can adjust parameters, why bother even "nicht"ing u.s. mode. Just leave that and modify the other #s to taste?

Or if that does really make sense, at the very least, is the move to allow some more slip to code for euromdm.still? Or is there anything else new or more advanced to do/know? Thanks

TheMechanic · 03-31-2025, 07:20 PM

I tried to do it, and it took the config, not sure if anything has changed though. Until my next track day, I wont be able to fully verify.

TboneS54 · 04-03-2025, 07:37 PM

I just did the one change to turn off USA for euro MDM. Just so it doesn't intervene with my "normal" type of driving.

If I want to get more sideways, I'll just turn dsc off I think. I think modifing these values will give a false sense of security, if these changes could really let you sustain any sort of drift or spin.

jaffles · 07-22-2025, 06:25 PM

If any of the pre 2016 post crowd are around, for such an old but interesting thread, would it be fair to say if you don't own a US E9X, than the rest are Euro. I imagine living in Australia there are no Oceanic models, rather just imports from Europe. Would that be a fair reconning for a new to BMW enthusiast.

jereze93 · 07-23-2025, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spyro235

Hi All- bumping this super old thread. I havent looked specifically, but I'm curious if anyone has done this DIY in protools.

Any update on this? Did you find anyone who did a DIY or did you end up doing it yourself?

11-05-2014, 08:52 AM	#23
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TheBreeze Lieutenant 258 Rep 500 Posts Drives: 2016 F80 Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Cary, NC iTrader: (7)	So I need some help. For some strange reason, I can't get the MDYNAMIC_MODE_USA change to take. NCSExpert claims that it worked, but when I go back to read it again, it's still set to activ. Here's my MAN file: RPA nicht_aktiv M3_BAUART wert_03 M3_GETRIEBE wert_00 M3_UEBERSTEUERN_MUE_0 wert_03 M3_UEBERSTEUERN_MUE_1_2 wert_03 MDYNAMIC_MODE_USA nicht_aktiv M3_PRE_MSR nicht_aktiv LENKWINKELKENNLINIE wert_02 wert_03 LAT_EBD nicht_aktiv US_VEHICLE nicht_aktiv POHO nicht_aktiv DDS_PLUS nicht_aktiv I can read all the modules fine. I'm using the one-stop cable, so that should be good. I'm using a VM image called "*********V3" that I grabbed from e90post. All indications point to the coding working, but alas the settings don't take. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong? __________________ 2016 F80 M3 (Mineral/Full SO) 2014 X5 M Sport (Mineral/Mocha)
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Spyro235 Captain 365 Rep 805 Posts Drives: '10 X5D, '08 e90 M3 6mt Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Maple Valley, WA iTrader: (0)	Hi All- bumping this super old thread. I havent looked specifically, but I'm curious if anyone has done this DIY in protools. __________________ Daily/ Tow: 2010 X5 35D - 340k, Deleted w/DUDMD Stage 2, Sutphin Trans tune, Comfort seat retrofit Fun car: 2008 e90 M3- 6mt, slicktop, AW, cloth
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