Knocking noise from steering, is this normal?

Aleksandar · 11-22-2016, 03:08 PM

I have a question and if someone can help me I would appreciate that very much

E93 M3 2012 31.000 km, without MDM and w/o EDC.

Since I bought this car it has steering knocking from steering rack, less noticeable when the car is cold and far more after for example after driving.

I replaced both tie rods, both sway bar stabilizers and still knocking. I bought new Lower joint + upper joint but didn't replaced it cause the axle must go down and cause the sound comes from steering rack. In driving is everything fine but when I hit a deep hole I can feel it on stering wheel, when driving slow for example over train I hear a pretty loud clicking from steering wheel/rack.

M3 owners, if you shake the steering wheel back and forth without the engine running and after a drive, do u hear a strong klicking noise from the engine?

If you shake the wheel back and forth when the engine is running, do u feel (and hear too) a little like empty space when the wheel is on 12'?

I am sorry for my bad english too

This is the sound after driving, the camera was on air filter.

Aleksandar · 11-24-2016, 06:28 AM

No one?

WingZeroX5 · 11-24-2016, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Aleksandar

No one?

Check my thread a year ago, I had the same issue and was told it was normal...i replaced the rack and all suspension components associated with it. Still there.

So one day I went into the dealership and saw a 2013 model. Went inside and shook the steering. Same noise.

The thread says to replace the steering assembly, which I havent done yet.

///mawana · 11-24-2016, 11:56 AM

Nothing normal about that sound, my '08 doesn't have it. I would guess, you need a new column or at least get the one you reconditioned.

Helmsman · 11-24-2016, 11:20 PM

Nope, mine doesnt sound like that.

Aleksandar · 11-29-2016, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ///mawana

Nothing normal about that sound, my '08 doesn't have it. I would guess, you need a new column or at least get the one you reconditioned.

Do u mean column between steering wheel and steering rack? Or steering rack?

WingZeroX5 · 12-02-2016, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Aleksandar

Do u mean column between steering wheel and steering rack? Or steering rack?

the column between steering wheel and rack

I don't think this is a rack issue

atruelunatic · 12-06-2016, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Aleksandar

I have a question and if someone can help me I would appreciate that very much

Were you able to solve your problem? I just started noticing this on my car, 99k miles.

Aleksandar · 12-13-2016, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by atruelunatic

Were you able to solve your problem? I just started noticing this on my car, 99k miles.

Not yet

Identical sound..

I was till now in 2 bmw official service/repair shop and they said the rack is perfectly fine and I am imagining..lol

Before this I was at my mechanics and they said this is 1000% the rack. Cause when it gets hot the material stretches and there is a little play..I had the same issue 9-10 years ago on my E46 coupe, when was cold (first 20 mins after engine starting) and untill the joint gets very hot and stretches. After new joint was installed everything was fine. Howewer there was no clunk, only some free play and knocking from steering wheel instead steering rack.

I am thinking about installing new rack, 1400 €. But if this is not the rack fault, dont know then what to do..

Cbozz · 02-07-2019, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Aleksandar

Not yet

Identical sound..

I was till now in 2 bmw official service/repair shop and they said the rack is perfectly fine and I am imagining..lol

Before this I was at my mechanics and they said this is 1000% the rack. Cause when it gets hot the material stretches and there is a little play..I had the same issue 9-10 years ago on my E46 coupe, when was cold (first 20 mins after engine starting) and untill the joint gets very hot and stretches. After new joint was installed everything was fine. Howewer there was no clunk, only some free play and knocking from steering wheel instead steering rack.

I am thinking about installing new rack, 1400 €. But if this is not the rack fault, dont know then what to do..

did you solve this issue? I have the same sound when car is off... I didn't notice any noises when driving..

amrazM · 02-10-2019, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Cbozz

did you solve this issue? I have the same sound when car is off... I didn't notice any noises when driving..

That video above is def the steering shaft.

Cbozz · 02-11-2019, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by amrazM

That video above is def the steering shaft.

I think it's my knuckle due to the temperatures being in negative's.... like someone said here the metal shrinks and there is some knocking when car is off... when running or when warm - no noise at all...
guys on here mentioned this is something I shouldn't worry about... should I just swap out this knuckle for peace of mind?
It does sound like it's coming form the knuckle when I have someone move the steering wheel for me...

S14turbo · 04-14-2019, 05:52 PM

Same Problem here, is there an solution?
Done already:

Strut Bearings changed.
New steering rack screws.

All Screws in Front axle losen and pulled with right torque.

11-22-2016, 03:08 PM	#1
Aleksandar New Member 2 Rep 20 Posts Drives: BMW E93 M3 Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Zagreb iTrader: (0)	Knocking noise from steering, is this normal? I have a question and if someone can help me I would appreciate that very much E93 M3 2012 31.000 km, without MDM and w/o EDC. Since I bought this car it has steering knocking from steering rack, less noticeable when the car is cold and far more after for example after driving. I replaced both tie rods, both sway bar stabilizers and still knocking. I bought new Lower joint + upper joint but didn't replaced it cause the axle must go down and cause the sound comes from steering rack. In driving is everything fine but when I hit a deep hole I can feel it on stering wheel, when driving slow for example over train I hear a pretty loud clicking from steering wheel/rack. M3 owners, if you shake the steering wheel back and forth without the engine running and after a drive, do u hear a strong klicking noise from the engine? If you shake the wheel back and forth when the engine is running, do u feel (and hear too) a little like empty space when the wheel is on 12'? I am sorry for my bad english too This is the sound after driving, the camera was on air filter. Last edited by Aleksandar; 01-18-2017 at 10:32 AM..
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///mawana Lieutenant 80 Rep 564 Posts Drives: e90 M3 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Prosper, TX iTrader: (0)	Nothing normal about that sound, my '08 doesn't have it. I would guess, you need a new column or at least get the one you reconditioned. __________________ 2015 K46 S1KRR 2008 E90 M3
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Helmsman Major General 4437 Rep 7,092 Posts Drives: 2011 AW E90 M3 ZCP Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Stockholm, Sweden iTrader: (0)	Nope, mine doesnt sound like that.
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S14turbo New Member 6 Rep 13 Posts Drives: 320is Stock 320is turbo E90 M3 Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Germany iTrader: (0)	Same Problem here, is there an solution? Done already: Strut Bearings changed. New steering rack screws. All Screws in Front axle losen and pulled with right torque.
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