BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > E90/E92 M3 Technical Topics > DIY Guides/ Discussions
 
BPM
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      11-26-2013, 10:05 PM   #67
warranty
Enlisted Member
14
Rep
32
Posts

Drives: 2008 M3 sedan
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: California

iTrader: (1)

I did the tranny fluid change today, and at 50k miles the old fluid was pretty dark. Lifetime fluid my ass, BMW! Now the 1-2 shift seems to feel smoother (I used to have to double-clutch when cold to ensure smooth shifts) so I'm very glad I did it.

While I was under there I manually powered the pump to drain the fluid in the cooler. As another poster mentioned, I did so by slitting open the pump wire loom and scraping off the insulation on the red wire (+12V). Then I temporarily connect a battery +12V to the red wire, and connect another wire between the battery ground and the tranny case (which acts as a ground for the tranny fluid pump). I manually connect the ground wire in 15 second bursts to power the pump 3~4 times. Quite a bit more fluid were pumped out of the cooler that way...until there was just nothing more to come out of the drain hole.

As for filling the tranny, I initially filled up to the fill hole level, then I hand-tightened the old fill plug and cycled the pump for another 45~60 seconds (also in 15 second bursts). Then I think I added another ~300ml of fluid and re-installed a new fill plug that I bought (I discarded the old drain and fill plugs).

Of course, after I was all done I wrapped some high-temperature electrical tape over the pump wire that I had exposed and doubled the protection with additional wire loom just to be safe. Overall a very simple procedure--figuring out how to power the pump and cleaning up the occasional spills probably took more time than the actual procedure.

By the way, my filter mesh screen was also very clean, but since I had it out I just installed a new one that I bought along with the new crush washer.
__________________

2008 6MT M3 sedan
Appreciate 0
      02-03-2014, 12:19 PM   #68
Time Lord
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor
Time Lord's Avatar
United_States
125
Rep
698
Posts

Drives: 2018 F80 ZCP
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: NW Florida

iTrader: (5)

Was anyone's oil strainer that bad that they had to replace it?
__________________
2018 F80 ZCP
Appreciate 0
      02-07-2014, 08:24 AM   #69
Grail05
Putcha ang ganda...
Grail05's Avatar
United_States
279
Rep
5,441
Posts

Drives: 17 F82 M4
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Los Angeles, Brea CA.

iTrader: (10)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Giorgia View Post
Was anyone's oil strainer that bad that they had to replace it?
no when i replaced mine at 50k or 70k it was very clean. im doing another tranny fluid at 100k im at 84k now.. that will take 3 years for me to get to 100k lol
__________________
Appreciate 0
      02-07-2014, 08:43 AM   #70
Time Lord
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor
Time Lord's Avatar
United_States
125
Rep
698
Posts

Drives: 2018 F80 ZCP
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: NW Florida

iTrader: (5)

I just changed mine at 45k miles(08) and it was black!!!!! i know that oil still works efficiantly even though its black but im glad i did it. of course more of a piece of mind.

knocked out both diff and trans fluid in 30 min. and it was my first time. thanks to the guides on this forum.

Brakes are next......
__________________
2018 F80 ZCP
Appreciate 0
      02-07-2014, 09:10 AM   #71
Grail05
Putcha ang ganda...
Grail05's Avatar
United_States
279
Rep
5,441
Posts

Drives: 17 F82 M4
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Los Angeles, Brea CA.

iTrader: (10)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Giorgia View Post
I just changed mine at 45k miles(08) and it was black!!!!! i know that oil still works efficiantly even though its black but im glad i did it. of course more of a piece of mind.

knocked out both diff and trans fluid in 30 min. and it was my first time. thanks to the guides on this forum.

Brakes are next......
hmmn weird when i replaced mine at 50 or 70k i could still see some of the aluminum part and i wipe it down with a cleaner and parts were still pretty shiny.. maybe the dealer replaced mine at 30k. not sure..

yea brakes are really easy. if you dont have power tools make sure you have extensions tubes those nuts are hard to get..
__________________
Appreciate 0
      02-07-2014, 10:50 AM   #72
Time Lord
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor
Time Lord's Avatar
United_States
125
Rep
698
Posts

Drives: 2018 F80 ZCP
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: NW Florida

iTrader: (5)

Oil was black lol...... strainer was clean
__________________
2018 F80 ZCP
Appreciate 0
      03-11-2014, 08:34 PM   #73
Golddots
Second Lieutenant
85
Rep
280
Posts

Drives: e90 m3
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: nova

iTrader: (1)

Any gl4 fluid ok to use? Must use BMW fluid?
Appreciate 0
      05-09-2014, 12:57 PM   #74
werly
First Lieutenant
Taiwan
52
Rep
341
Posts

Drives: 2011 MR E92 M3
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (1)

Can someone elaborate on how to put together a oil pump using OP's method?

Thanks a bunch
Appreciate 0
      05-09-2014, 02:15 PM   #75
W///
Lieutenant General
W///'s Avatar
7436
Rep
12,293
Posts

Drives: F82GTS, E36/E92M3, Z4M
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: SC

iTrader: (13)

Quote:
Originally Posted by werly View Post
Can someone elaborate on how to put together a oil pump using OP's method?

Thanks a bunch
Just buy one off Amazon or go to your local auto store
__________________
Current:
16 F82 M4 GTS, Black Sapphire/Black, DCT
08 E92 M3, Sparkling Graphite/Bamboo Beige, 6MT
07 E85 Z4M Roadster, Alpine White/Red, 6MT
99 E36 M3, Techno Violet/Dove Grey, 6MT
Appreciate 0
      05-10-2014, 10:01 AM   #76
e92zero
Captain
212
Rep
875
Posts

Drives: 2011 E92 BW
Join Date: May 2010
Location: somewhere in US

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by werly View Post
Can someone elaborate on how to put together a oil pump using OP's method?

Thanks a bunch
Goto your local Home Depot or OSH, grab the gray colored Spray Master bottle. (This is the best one I found so far). Unscrew the spray tip, walk over to the clear tubing isle and match the smallest clear tubing that fit. There is only one size that will fit with a leak tight seal. It will be a bit tight but it will fit. Buy a roll of that tubing.

Once you get home, open the bottle, take off the strainer inside, fill it up with oil, cut a piece of tubing to length and screw it onto the spray bottle tip. You will now have your oil pump as the OP.

Hopefully, that's detail enough. I have one of these pump for every different oil for the different cars in the family that requires pumping. Can't thank the OP enough for showing this. Very clean oil change now compare to the stupid %#&)#!*&$ pumps I used before from auto stores.
Appreciate 0
      05-24-2014, 06:14 PM   #77
jimk
Captain
jimk's Avatar
100
Rep
933
Posts

Drives: 2018 M550i
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Camarillo, CA

iTrader: (8)

Activating the pump w ISTA/D

For those who have ISTA/D, you can activate the pump under Activities, Engine, Manual Transmission. I used the Rheingold release:
Attached Images
           
Appreciate 2
nah dude237.00
      08-09-2014, 08:56 AM   #78
bigfy39
Enlisted Member
1
Rep
48
Posts

Drives: e46 328ci
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: New Jersey

iTrader: (1)

Hey guys,

Any tips for removing the fill/drain plugs without stripping them? I came close to stripping the fill plug on my e90 330 when trying to do this. Then again, I tried it at 110k miles (I bought the car second hand) and it was probably never touched since production.
Appreciate 0
      08-09-2014, 09:19 AM   #79
dparm
Stop the hate, get a V8
dparm's Avatar
United_States
3848
Rep
8,625
Posts

Drives: C7 Corvette GS, AMG C63 S
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Frisco, TX

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigfy39 View Post
Hey guys,

Any tips for removing the fill/drain plugs without stripping them? I came close to stripping the fill plug on my e90 330 when trying to do this. Then again, I tried it at 110k miles (I bought the car second hand) and it was probably never touched since production.

I'd hit it with some PB Blaster before, let it soak in for a bit, and then try. Make sure you have the proper wrench to apply a lot of torque instantly.
__________________
Now: 2017 Corvette Grand Sport, 2021 AMG C63 S sedan
Past: 2011.5 M3 sedan ZCP
Appreciate 0
      09-22-2014, 09:01 PM   #80
JonM
Lieutenant
145
Rep
409
Posts

Drives: E90 M3 Sedan
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Seattle, WA

iTrader: (4)

I just did this service on my 08 M3. My car only has 42k on it and I paid the dealer to do it once before. At any rate, the reason for my post is I used my brand new Motive fluid pump when I did it. It's basically a glorified garden pressure sprayer. If you are crafty you could make your own for less. But I have rigged up so many pumps over the last 20 years and tried all kinds of cheap POS pumps, I wanted to try a nice one for once. This is it. It is a pleasure to use. I pressurized it with my compressor and it filled the transmission fluid in about 1 minute on a single charge. Love the tool. I will use it on the M coupes next and on our GMC truck too.

http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/Motive/ES2207920/
__________________
Jon Maddux
coupenut.blogspot.com
x5nut.blogspot.com
16 X5d | 08 M3 Sedan | 06 M Coupe | 01 M coupe | 99 M coupe
Appreciate 0
      12-08-2014, 06:26 AM   #81
gatorfast
Major General
gatorfast's Avatar
United_States
4969
Rep
6,854
Posts

Drives: 718 Cayman
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: SoFla

iTrader: (4)

For those running redline fluid, is this the stuff you are using?

http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?product=50204
Appreciate 0
      12-08-2014, 08:39 AM   #82
Gossypiboma
Major
541
Rep
1,195
Posts

Drives: 13' M3 6MT 18' M3 CS
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: The John

iTrader: (8)

Quote:
Originally Posted by gatorfast View Post
For those running redline fluid, is this the stuff you are using?

http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?product=50204
Nope. This is the correct fluid
http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=51&pcid=7
Appreciate 0
      01-25-2015, 07:28 PM   #83
SpartanGA
Captain
SpartanGA's Avatar
United_States
97
Rep
643
Posts

Drives: 2018 BMW M4 Comp F83
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Atlanta, GA

iTrader: (0)

Interesting the BMW manuals use ATF fluid. I assume the syncros must be similar to clutch packs etc.

Great DIY!

I've always tried to snake a tube from the engine compartment down and with a friend and a funnel just filled it. Haven't tried on M3 before. Could be way too tight.
Appreciate 0
      03-02-2015, 07:43 PM   #84
Z K
Major General
Z K's Avatar
1886
Rep
5,504
Posts

Drives: E90 M3, G20 M340i
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: San Francisco

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpartanGA View Post

I've always tried to snake a tube from the engine compartment down and with a friend and a funnel just filled it. Haven't tried on M3 before. Could be way too tight.
It's much easier to reach from the bottom. I just hate those gear oil pumps you buy at the auto store.
__________________
Auto Detailing Enthusiast!
Appreciate 0
      03-03-2015, 06:04 PM   #85
italyix
Captain
italyix's Avatar
United_States
141
Rep
979
Posts

Drives: '08 E90 M3
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Bay Area

iTrader: (5)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Z K View Post
It's much easier to reach from the bottom. I just hate those gear oil pumps you buy at the auto store.
You can also try the hand pump, fits on the redline bottles: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Appreciate 0
      03-03-2015, 06:27 PM   #86
Z K
Major General
Z K's Avatar
1886
Rep
5,504
Posts

Drives: E90 M3, G20 M340i
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: San Francisco

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by italyix View Post
You can also try the hand pump, fits on the redline bottles: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Confirmed to fit the Redline bottles? I tried the store ones and they are too big to fit into the neck of the the Redline bottles. I ended up cutting the tops off the bottle to use the pump...
__________________
Auto Detailing Enthusiast!
Appreciate 0
      03-07-2015, 01:28 PM   #87
xpunisherx
First Lieutenant
xpunisherx's Avatar
Germany
49
Rep
315
Posts

Drives: 2015 F82
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Killeen, TX

iTrader: (3)

Has anyone experienced trouble with leaks when using the stock plugs on the fill or drain holes?

I changed my tranny fluid about 300 miles ago, and did a follow up check today. Used new plugs when fluid was changed. Found that I was down about 250 mL. noticed a fair about of 'crud' on the top of tranny cover. Tranny oil definitely coming out of the fill plug.

I replaced the drain plug with a Dimple magnetic plug. No leaks from the drain hole.

At this point I am assessing that the rubber seal on the fill plugs are mediocre. The Dimple plug uses a crush washer.

I torqued the fill plug to 25 ft/lbs.

Any one have any thoughts?

I will check again in another 300 miles and if the leak continues, I am going to go with an aftermarket plug.
__________________
SOLD: 2015 F82 Yas Marina Blue / M Performance Exhaust / Black Kidney Grill
SOLD: 2011 E92 LeMans Blue / Volk RE-30 / CF: Spoiler, Splitters, Nostrils, Kidneys, Gills
Appreciate 0
      03-07-2015, 04:27 PM   #88
marksae
First Lieutenant
marksae's Avatar
36
Rep
368
Posts

Drives: ///M
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Bay Area

iTrader: (6)

I think you answered your own question. You replaced the OEM drain plug o-ring seal with a crush washer instead. Perhaps the o-ring seal is designed to seal up to a higher internal transmission oil pressure before seeping oil out.
__________________
04 E46 M3 6MT - AW / Cinn
93 FD RX-7 Base Manual - BB / Blk

IG: @gearheadtwins
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:09 PM.




m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST