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2:06.9. This is PCA, where people are convinced their cars are fast so they run in the fastest group with slow cars... so frustrating
I have a cool comparison of two 2:06.x laps, one in the e90 and the other in the CS. If you have RaceStudio I can send them over for your enjoyment |
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Denis dot clavette at Comcast dot net Mine was with SCDA which was similar to what you describe with PCA in that it was hard to get clean laps. I finally got one which was the 2:00.9. I went back a couple of months later with stickers hoping to break 2:00 but spun two bearings instead. I am hoping to get one more chance this year get up there to break 2:00 but it's pretty doubtful. Remember to disable first and last laps when doing TBL's but I think you know that one. |
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Too bad you're so far away, it's entertaining to make little trains of M3s and swat 991 GT3s out of the way. We have a decent train here with DB, CorruptCommie and Brandt. Plus myself and my brother. |
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07-19-2019, 08:28 PM | #9886 | |
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the m4 gts just seemed a bit bland and in the middle of the pack with the camaro and mustang. i've sat in a m4 gts and really liked it, i just wish that the gts performance was attainable at the m4 competition package price point. aside from cool factor, the car doesn't convey a good value for cost to me. the performance is there, i just think it should be a little more performance for that coin.
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They should have known the car would be tested by cretins that are too used to pressing a button twice to put it in 'Sport+' mode and call it a day. If you use the car set up decently it is outstanding. Super linear power curve with a lot of power. Such a pleasure to track. It's a pussycat with good amounts of power. Reeling in 991.2 GT3s in straights is impressive |
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07-19-2019, 11:56 PM | #9888 | |
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The lightweight carbon fiber wheels on the base GT350R package shows the value over an M4. If the wheels were available on the M4 GTS, I'm sure BMW would try to charge 10k more and everyone would think they were amazing. By looking only at price points, the GT350R should be competing with the base M4, but it's not competing - it's destroying it. It's even quicker than an M4 GTS on many tracks, except the Nurburgring. A few lap times here. The fact that the GT350R has worse 0-60 and 0-100 times than the M4 GTS further demonstrates its better handling. As far as the cooling related and oil consumption issues, I think that was mostly a GT350 (even cheaper than an M4) rather than a GT350R problem. BMWs are no stranger to either of the issues. But at least I haven't heard the Mustang engine consuming rod bearings so that's a plus for it. In terms of performance and value for money, you'll go much further with the Corvette and Mustang. The money saved over an M4 base model will certainly cover all the oil the engine will consume. I don't understand your dislike of Porsches, but I can appreciate when something I don't necessarily like does well. I've had no interest in Mustangs or Corvettes but they are delivering compelling offerings. So compelling that they make the M3/M4 look like a mid-field also ran from which we should collectively move on. There was an episode of the Grand Tour where they made the statement that the biggest problem with the new high performance, handling oriented American cars is their price - it's so low compared to the European that it makes us think that they must be worse for some reason. |
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Just got my Solo DL 2 from M-World and waiting for the install instructions. For Race Studio 3 - does anyone want to share their configurations? To start out with, I'd like a page that just shows GPS speed, speedometer speed, and RPM for HPDEs where timing devices are discouraged. For the ECU stream where you select the protocol, what are you choosing for the E9x M3? There's "F_Series" "M235i" "M3_GT2" etc
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07-20-2019, 12:23 AM | #9890 | |
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If you look at the E92 M3 time, it was pretty close to stuff like the Mustang GT, IS F, 911 C2S, C63, etc. Then the F-series hit and everyone just left them in the dust.
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07-20-2019, 12:50 AM | #9891 |
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Yep, the e9x was the last benchmark car of its class. Tons of reviews back in the day and the e9x was the reigning king.
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07-20-2019, 02:02 AM | #9893 | |
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Setting up a page like you describe takes just a few minutes. I suggest you dig in and learn how to do it. That way you can easily change the page configs as you continue using the device. No one else's pre-setup pages are going to be exactly what you want. You'll also want to setup the side LEDs to do what you want. AIM has a number of videos on YouTube that describe some setup stuff.
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I'm the other side of this, the F series made a bigger leap than the E9x did vs the E46. Little tangible improvements where the "front knuckle is basically the same" but everyone has the same feedback - it's more neutral and gets away with far less camber than E series BMWs. It also manages to put down bulk torque with that active "cheater" diff unlike our diffs (and the E46, E60).
I suppose they just need to trickle down to people who have more ability to get the most out of it. There is a E92 GTS in the hands of a former pro tin-top racer... he is 3 seconds faster in his M4 GTS on a 1:39 vs 1:42 lap at the same circuit. He doesn't drive it as often because tyre choice is "limited". Pretty sure that laptime was out the box on the Cup2 whereas the M3 GTS was either on A050/Z221. On another circuit, the pro in the E92 M3 GTS is basically matched by a N55 M2 with camber plates, Ohlins R&T, Z221s. Let that sink in. I can't talk about 'Vettes and the better than base GT 'Stang. They're not sold or popular here. The C8 will potentially change that. We can all play laptimes but I bet that's not why we're here. Go have fun. |
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meanwhile, M3s and M4s were released with 255/275 Super Sports and couldn't keep up with the others around a track. shock. |
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07-20-2019, 12:15 PM | #9896 | |
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Personally I'm grateful BMW doesn't put 305 psc2s in front in the M3/4. It's a stupid tire size and compound for real-life driving. Instead, the small percentage of people who actively track can get another set of wheels for that. I drive to the track with 10.5" square setups and hate every second of the street driving portion. It is completely stupid. But maybe not so stupid, as it seems like people are obsessed with how fast a car is without doing the most basic things like track pads/camber plates/wheel and tire changes. There are also things like alignments, where the GT350R comes with an insane one which eats tires in 5k miles and M3/4 come with normal ones. While some people cry that BMW has lost their way, others are installing camber plates, track tires and wheels plus track pads on their M3/4s/CS/GTS and crushing everyone out there. But let's stick to comparisons where the M3/4 has PSS tires or the GTS runs 265/285 psc2s. Yup, smart. There was a dude here that blew through his stock ZL1 1LE shocks in 4k miles of street driving 'because the roads are really bad'. Is this some kind of joke? My MCS have 10k on them of track use and another 15 of street use and zero issues... some people may call the ZL1 1LE progress but I do not. |
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It seems like most GT350 and 1LE owners don’t track and/or can’t get the performance out of the cars with all of that tire anyways, which is fine unless you're bragging about how fast your car is I guess.
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Talking about track performance with keyboard racers and excel spreadsheet makers is an epic waste of time. I am amazed people come talk to me about the feel of their whatever car... i look at them and my only thought is 'you wouldn't know performance or feel if it fell on you'. People should spend 30 days a year at the track with whatever car they want and at least they can have a more respectable opinion. |
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I'd half agree with this. I see a fair number of them at track days, though it's usually the same people -- and a lot of those 350s are trailered in.
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