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      07-09-2011, 02:22 PM   #3411
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A lot of green fringing on that Mark?
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I took a few shots of those the other day. I didn't know what they were at the time.


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A lot of green fringing on that Mark?
Not that I see. I just looked at it at 200% in PS and didn't see any. Where do you see fringing?
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Nice shot, Dave. Did you do any PP noise reduction or is the 7D that good with high ISO settings?
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Nice shot, Dave. Did you do any PP noise reduction or is the 7D that good with high ISO settings?
No, no extra NR at all. I DID shoot at +2EV to avoid underexposing the bird. The clouds were really brightly reflecting on the water and the sun was behind the bird. Also, because it's hand held, I need a fast SS. Hence the high ISO.

Anyway, the key is not to underexpose at high ISO. That applies to the 7D and even my 5D MkII. I DO use ISO 1600 as my general upper limit with the 7D. With the 5D2 I occasionally go up to ISO 6400. Also, I was helped by the light BG.

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Not that I see. I just looked at it at 200% in PS and didn't see any. Where do you see fringing?
maybe not the correct term but its all around the leave edges - a bright green.
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No, no extra NR at all. I DID shoot at +2EV to avoid underexposing the bird. The clouds were really brightly reflecting on the water and the sun was behind the bird. Also, because it's hand held, I need a fast SS. Hence the high ISO.

Anyway, the key is not to underexpose at high ISO. That applies to the 7D and even my 5D MkII. I DO use ISO 1600 as my general upper limit with the 7D. With the 5D2 I occasionally go up to ISO 6400. Also, I was helped by the light BG.

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Wow, boosting to +2EV works pretty well for reducing noise. Good tip. I don't have a 7D, but still, with just a bit of PP NR this 6400ISO shot isn't bad. Thanks, Dave.



Of course if I really wanted a quality shot here I would have used a faster lens and much lower ISO. Still, as a quick experiment I'm pretty happy with the results.
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I took a few shots of those the other day. I didn't know what they were at the time.


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Nice shot, Matt. We don't have any with the blue in them. Ours are all yellow and red/yellow.
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Awesome detail, Paul.
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Wow, boosting to +2EV works pretty well for reducing noise. Good tip. I don't have a 7D, but still, with just a bit of PP NR this 6400ISO shot isn't bad. Thanks, Dave.


Of course if I really wanted a quality shot here I would have used a faster lens and much lower ISO. Still, as a quick experiment I'm pretty happy with the results.
Perfect example. Another thing that happens with +EV on a digital camera is to boost the dynamic range to its limit. With your cat you've gotten great detail in the cat's fur, particularly with such a high ISO. Try +EV at ISO 100 or 200 and the shadow and fur detail will blow you away. It's not just a high-ISO technique.

For those of us shooting in RAW, "expose right" with the histogram as far to the right as you can get without blowing out highlights. Looking at your cat, the white on the face would define the limit to how much +EV you could apply and still have a great looking cat. (The BG would be another issue and you might blow it out, like I did with my GBH).

Even without heavy NR, you do lose detail as you raise the ISO, but I find that I'm better off, generally, raising ISO up to my practical limit. Under exposing, even at lower ISOs, results in noise and then applying NR wipes out details. My approach preserves details and lets noise fall where it may.

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Thanks for the info, dcstep, I wish I had read your post before shooting tonight. I'll keep it in mind for next time I'm shooting in the higher ISO range.


Here are two shots from tonight. I had to crank the ISO up to allow a faster shutter speed to capture the water detail.

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Very cool shots, Matt. What did you use for a background?
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Great shots Matt. Looks to me like you got the EV close to perfect. The highlights in the water are near their limits as is.
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Very cool shots, Matt. What did you use for a background?
Thanks, Mark. I used a sheet of vellum paper with a 90 watt halogen spotlight behind it.

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Great shots Matt. Looks to me like you got the EV close to perfect. The highlights in the water are near their limits as is.
Thanks, dcstep. I just wished I could have used a lower ISO and still kept the fast shutter speed.
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Haha, nope, pouring with the left hand and holding down the shutter with the right!
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