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Find a stock 1M suspension? Those are fixed "ZCP" suspension.
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That's what Richbot is running, and I asked him about it a few posts up above in this thread. Seems to be fine as the ZCP spring rate is either unchanged or very similar.
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Yep. It's fine, to the extent the stock Sachs dampers are any good, and they are, or at least I think the struts are. Not as big a fan of the shocks, I just swapped the shocks out for B8's in back and it was an improvement.
I like the stock bumpstops but I think I am going to shave them a bit next time I have my front struts apart to replace them. I'm sure the ancient ones on the car now are already hammered. Quote:
Unless your guy has all the wiring, EDC modules, etc., and codes for free, I don't think it'd be such a great deal to add it to a non-EDC car which I think spazz's is
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Always wondered if anyone tried to program ZCP EDC on a non-zcp EDC car.
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They have. Coding is not the issue. It is running the EDC wiring and hooking up an EDC module in the trunk. Expensive and not worth it. Now if he had EDC already the coding from non ZCP to ZCP is easy.
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I meant code the ZCP EDC shock profile, but with normal EDC shocks? Since the part numbers are different I assume the non-zcp edc shocks/struts are different, but would they work with the zcp edc coding?
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Then you'd have the profile but not the ride height |
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Yea exactly, you'd have the dynamic sport profile. Since it's mostly software that controls that I was wondering if it works.
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Awesome, that is good to know if I ever remove my coilovers and go back to stock EDC. I have a set of ZCP springs i'd pair them with.
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While it's going to be hard to compare the actual effect it had, atleast it sounds like a few people have tried it,
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That being said, the non-ZCP EDC do function with the ZCP settings with dynamic sport mode. It feels alot better than the static sport mode in the non-ZCP EDC coding. Is it equal to ZCP? probably not. But it feels better to my butt. LOL.
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To be honest, I'm just not a fan of the standard EDC shock valving. I think comfort is a bit choppy over small/quick rollers and quite harsh over sharp edges (like a deep manhole cover). BUT - it's a bit too floaty at higher speeds. Normal mode is too stiff for city use and Sport is simply useless in my world 99% of the time. What I want is plush control, like the B12k it gave me on the 46M. I've considered the Dinan springs/kit but that leaves me with the same EDC dampers which I don't really like. I've also considered the ZCP springs for that subtle drop (purely looks) but again..... the dampers are my problem. I've considered the Ohlins RT but I wasn't a fan of those on the 46M. So, like you, Danny, I'm really considering the B12 kit for this car. Have you personally run/tried this kit? How does it feel compared to a 30k mile bone stock non-ZCP EDC car? How about the Billy EDC dampers + ZCP/Dinan/Eibachs springs? Anyone try that setup? |
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I already have two B12 kits on order but neither are for my cars, but they'll be close at hand. Doing rod bearings and suspension on both of them sometime in May/June. My cars will be running a MCS 3WR and a OEM ZCP with 30k on the car. I've tried B12 on my E46M3 for 100k miles, on a 330Ci for 100k miles (still own this car in Barcelona), on a US 330Ci for almost 100k miles and on the X5 (yes, seriously) for the past 50k miles. I always say I think people waste their time thinking of suspension options... just get the B12 and be done with it. [you are an exception] |
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'd like the B12 kit on this car. Plus, it's available while the dampers alone are not (last I checked).
The EDC Billies are available as well, but that adds another grand give or take. Not sure I need adjustable BUT something tells me the EDC Billies on soft paired with Dinans/Eibachs and slightly trimmed front internal bump stops would be the ultimate for this car. I imagine incredible control without the choppiness of the stock dampers. |
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