Why is the Japanese M3 Lower than the US M3?

JuniorDee · 03-05-2009, 11:09 PM

bummmmmmmp

psuwcc112 · 03-05-2009, 11:56 PM

This thread is DEAD!!

e46e92love · 03-07-2009, 01:23 PM

Until I get the last 7 of a Japanese //M's VIN I can't get any more info. I have tried and tried and can't find a VIN#

Cheers,
e46e92

snook · 03-08-2009, 01:25 AM

10 whole mm's....
WOW

rzm3 · 03-15-2009, 01:45 PM

Here are pictures of the 10mm lower Japanese version M3. I've PM'd the owner about his VIN.

Doc · 03-15-2009, 04:48 PM

Looks like it has a little more negative camber in the front too

Is it really worth the expense for 10mm?

psuwcc112 · 03-15-2009, 05:26 PM

This thread is back to live again

TTBear · 03-15-2009, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rldzhao

Here are pictures of the 10mm lower Japanese version M3. I've PM'd the owner about his VIN.

I've never understood the penchant for Japanese to specify left hand drive cars....

Apparently, it's a status thing. To my way of thinking, it would just be a pain in the ass.

rzm3 · 03-15-2009, 08:22 PM

Update, apparently the OP rented the car and already returned it... so no VIN for us

tim3less · 03-15-2009, 10:24 PM

I wish I lived in Japan....

psuwcc112 · 03-15-2009, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rldzhao

Update, apparently the OP rented the car and already returned it... so no VIN for us

SOARISTO · 03-21-2009, 05:46 AM

To aajami and everyone, I'm sorry I'm late.
(I had not checked the PM for a long time.)

I didn't know that the height was different between Japanese model and Euro/US model. I noticed by this topic just now.

That is a wonderful find!!

(This image is when I checked the offset.)

But why did BMW change the height? I wonder.

Because there is almost no non-paved road in Japan, isn't it? Or because there is the metropolitan expressway like a circuit in Tokyo, isn't it?

I think of that - Most Japanese persons are light in the weight. (Actuality, my weight is less than 60kg.) So, when a driver rid in, the down height of the chassis is a few.

On the other side, Most European and American persons are ...... So, the down height of the chassis is not a few.

Therefore, the down height is same as a result!! BMW designed as it becomes the same height all over the world.

(Please don't get angry. It's only a joke.)

aajami · 03-22-2009, 01:02 PM

Thanks for popping in, Soaristo. Is there any chance that you can PM your VIN number to rldzhao so that he can do the necessary research on our behalf?

Thanks again.

kmac1980 · 03-24-2009, 01:06 PM

The man makes a good point, BMW engineers knew that north american's are fat asses...

lesson learned? don't get lowering springs or JDM springs, just have another cheeseburger and your car will be riding nice and low in no time!

Quote:

Originally Posted by SOARISTO

To aajami and everyone, I'm sorry I'm late.
(I had not checked the PM for a long time.)

I didn't know that the height was different between Japanese model and Euro/US model. I noticed by this topic just now.

That is a wonderful find!!

(This image is when I checked the offset.)

But why did BMW change the height? I wonder.

Because there is almost no non-paved road in Japan, isn't it? Or because there is the metropolitan expressway like a circuit in Tokyo, isn't it?

I think of that - Most Japanese persons are light in the weight. (Actuality, my weight is less than 60kg.) So, when a driver rid in, the down height of the chassis is a few.

On the other side, Most European and American persons are ...... So, the down height of the chassis is not a few.

Therefore, the down height is same as a result!! BMW designed as it becomes the same height all over the world.

(Please don't get angry. It's only a joke.)

e46e92love · 03-24-2009, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmac1980

The man makes a good point, BMW engineers knew that north american's are fat asses...

lesson learned? don't get lowering springs or JDM springs, just have another cheeseburger and your car will be riding nice and low in no time!

jm1234 · 03-25-2009, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SOARISTO

I think of that - Most Japanese persons are light in the weight. (Actuality, my weight is less than 60kg.) So, when a driver rid in, the down height of the chassis is a few.

On the other side, Most European and American persons are ...... So, the down height of the chassis is not a few.

Could be because the Japanese are short and BMW found their Japanese customers had trouble getting into a taller car? One way to tell is to look and see if the Japanese cars have blocks on the pedals....

No flames, it's the first thing I thought when I first saw this thread.

m34jlp · 03-31-2009, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jm1234

Could be because the Japanese are short and BMW found their Japanese customers had trouble getting into a taller car? One way to tell is to look and see if the Japanese cars have blocks on the pedals....

No flames, it's the first thing I thought when I first saw this thread.

When i read the thread title this is the first thing i thought as well...you beat me to it! lol

Maybe they should have a Cuban version maybe 5mm lower as we arent the tallest either :/

JuniorDee · 06-04-2009, 02:53 PM

update? From reading about the individual line 2010 m3, it looks like that version comes with the same springs as the japanese model.

e90m3japan · 06-04-2009, 11:56 PM

hey guys let me know if guys want to know japanese vin#
I have M3 in Japan. I will be able to give vin to you guys after 9th of july!
right now I am in the US and can't tell you guys off my head.
By the way, I am also might be able to answer things for you guys on M3 Stuff in Japan.

JuniorDee · 06-05-2009, 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e90m3japan

hey guys let me know if guys want to know japanese vin#
I have M3 in Japan. I will be able to give vin to you guys after 9th of july!
right now I am in the US and can't tell you guys off my head.
By the way, I am also might be able to answer things for you guys on M3 Stuff in Japan.

I believe the originator of this thread just needed a japanese vin in order to have his parts guy order us the japanese springs. If you can PM him the vin he can get the ball rolling on that for the rest of us.

J08M3 · 06-05-2009, 07:55 AM

doesn't this have to do with pedestrian safety laws? easier to raise the height of the US spec car than redesign it.

We also have minimum ride height laws here.

kmarei · 06-05-2009, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J08M3

doesn't this have to do with pedestrian safety laws? easier to raise the height of the US spec car than redesign it.

We also have minimum ride height laws here.

which is why the US spec GTi is much higher than the european spec

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