For New Owners - What I wish I knew when I first bought my E9X M3:

[Davisca455]

Originally Posted by FrozenE92M3

Do not take it anywhere for anything. Learn to work on the car yourself. The e9x m3 is one of the easiest cars I've ever worked on. The only reason anyone ever touched my car is for tire installation and alignments. I do everything else.

100% this!
Nobody loves your car more than you do.
I even take my wheels off and throw them in the SUV to go get tires replaced, or to get a flat fixed.
The thought of the tire store impact gun that is likely set to 200 ft lbs just creeps me out.
In my case, I doubt I could even afford the cost of ownership if I couldn't work on it myself, or at the very least, it would be causing me to use up too many marriage brownie points.
...and when you push the starter button after changing your rod bearings and everything still works, you are personally rewarded.

[alpine2530]

Hello new here. Thank you for this thread. Definitely helped in owning my first E92 M3!

[rnr_m3]

This is a great thread. Just bought my, new to me, e92 m3.
I’m glad I found this forum.

[Crikey9551]

Great info

[omegamn]

Amazing Thread Theodore

[BoldenJ]

Excellent car, this thread is fantastic.

[E22]

You learn something new about the E92 M3

[tbuck]

Originally Posted by AdM1nsarEas$

I wish I knew i'd get bored of DCT in like 2 weeks :/

all good though. just means i need 2 m3s in my life.

LOL, yes, and what a good reason! I too love a stick, and in fact all my other M's have been sticks. But when I got this latest one I wanted to try the dct, perhaps mainly because I am old, lol. And I have a stick for my daily already and this is just my weekend car. But I can tell you it needs the GTS flash BADLY!!! This thing is clunky and sometimes jerky, but all that I have read is the GTS fixes most of the problems and I am planning to get that sorted very soon. Perhaps you too can give that a try before running out and getting another.

[Altamont]

This is very helpful. Thanks!

[yopikari]

Very helpful information, thank you!

[Cartermaniac]

Thanks for sharing this! I'm a new owner and I really liked reading this

[bmwm3fanatic]

Awesome thread. Great reading up on here, perfect for aspiring/new owners. I have owned my 2011 E90 M3 DCT for 6 months now, and have put on about 6000 kilometres, daily driving it. Truly the best 6 months ever! These cars are so intoxicating, and I personally adore the S65 paired to the DCT.

I wish I knew how easy these cars were to work on, as mentioned on this thread a few times. At first I was very scared to touch anything, but as I went over the last few months, I learned that the e9x m3 is very straightforward to do work on!

Take care of these cars, let them warm up, maintain them properly, and I don't think they could ever disappoint and or let you down.

[Assimilator1]

JFYI, letting them warm up properly etc doesn't necessarily stop the (potential) rod bearing problem (especially the ones with lead/copper bearings).

[bigern79]

Just stumbled on this thread today and am glad I did. I'm 3 weeks into ownership and having a great time so far. I knew a few of these things, but not everyone. Thanks for putting it together!

[MMM - Finally]

Originally Posted by Theodore

For New Owners - What I wish I knew when I first bought my E9X M3:

1. The best info on M3Post is found in the less travelled E90/E92 M3 "Technical Topics" subsections - Engine, Wheels, Suspension, Cosmetic, Coding, DIY, Maintenance, Detail and Track. Notice how this "wish I knew list" is posted in the General Forum section? Caveat emptor.

Technical Topics Subsections

2. The E9X M3 has a hidden software setting to tweak the M Dynamic Mode (MDM) feature. Hire one of the many remote coders on this website to adjust the software settings in yours to the "Euro" MDM settings. This really livens up the car by making the traction control way less intrusive without being completely turned off for those extreme mistakes. This is one of the areas where the BMWs of this era really shine vs the Mercs.

Euro MDM

3. The E9X M3 S65 motors tick and click, it's normal.

S65 Motor Ticking

4. Some brands of oil are less noisy than others when used in the S65 engine. The ridiculously named "BMW M TwinTurbo Power 10W-60" oil and Shell Helix Ultra Racing 10W-60 oil (which may be one in the same, just with different labels) are two of the quietest options.

Shell Helix Ultra Racing 10W-60 Sound Test

5. The E9X M3's DCT transmissions shift clunky at low speeds and switch between drive and reverse slowly, it's normal. They make up for laggy slow speed performance higher in the RPM range and at higher speeds. Place the transmission shifting selection mode to 5 "bars" and it will improve dramatically. If you want faster shifting, tuners sell a DCT software tune (usually called the GTS DCT tune), but keep in mind it will come at the expense of reduced 0-60 mph acceleration.

DCT Slow Speed Behavior
M3 0-60 Times
More M3 0-60 Times Discussion

6. The E9X M3's DCT transmission is nearly bullet proof. BMW made amends for the absymal reliability of the SMG transmission before it. Most of them will eventually "weep" a little bit of DCT fluid, but they can do that safely for 10's of thousands of miles before seal replacements are really needed. The main culprit for the slow weeping is a simple O-ring at the top of the DCT transmission where the wiring harness connects to the DCT, but is often misdiagnosed as a leaking DCT side cover gasket or bottom DCT pan gasket as gravity pulls the fluid downwards and over them. Not surprisingly, many people who replace their side cover gaskets and bottom DCT pans find their weeping returns, probably because they were never leaking in the first place. This simple O-ring is very difficult to reach, but does not require special skills, nor expensive parts.

DIY: Fix the DCT Fluid Weeping Problem

Common DCT "Weeping"

7. The water pump on the S65 is bullet proof for at least 10 years, even with a plastic propeller. BMW got this one right. This is another area where BMW made amends for one of the previous generation model's shortcomings.

Have You Experienced a Water Pump Failure in Your E9X M3?

8. The E9X M3's two throttle actuators will eventually fail you and very often the second one will fail shortly after the first. There was a "hidden warranty" of sorts where failing throttle actuators could be replaced free of charge if they failed in the first 7 years or 70k miles for cars registered in California Emissions states which include: California, Connecticut, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New Mexico, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont or Washington. As nearly all E9X M3's are older than 7 years past their original sale date, you may want to prioritize preventive maintenance for the throttle actuators. The best preventive measure you can take now is to clean the eight throttle bodies so that the throttle actuators encounter the least amount of resistance when opening and closing the throttle body valves. We shouldn't be surprised throttle actuators that have to open and close 8 dirty throttle body (butterfly) valves covered in carbon build-up repeatedly might not last as long as throttle actuators that only have to open clean throttle body valves with a fraction of the resistance. This may be the most commonly overlooked maintenance item for E9X M3's.

DIY Throttle Body Cleaning

Throttle Actuators Covered by California Emissions Warranty

9. The E9X M3 deflection pulley (aka idler pulley) fails early. It's a low cost replacement part (by BMW standards) and easy to DIY if you want. A squeal from the engine bay of an S65 is almost always this part self destructing.

Details
Example A
Example B

10. Nearly all BWM E9X M3 maintenance parts are purchased by BMW from another company, placed in a BMW branded cardboard box, marked up 25-100% and then sold to you as the official BMW replacement part. Surprisingly, most of those exact parts BMW buys can be bought by you for a lot less. Check out this link for all of the exact factory matched parts ID'd so far.

E9X M3 Exact Original Equipment (OE) Equivalent Parts

11. All E9X M3's are, will be or were part of the Takata airbag recall. Many E9X M3s now are part of the main positive battery cable recall for the cable that runs from the trunk mounted battery to the fuse panel behind the glove box. 2013 model year E9X M3s have an extended warranty for the idle control valve for 10 years or 120,000 miles. Some E9X M3's (e90 M3's built 8/31/2009 to 10/28/2011, E92 M3's built 7/27/2009 to 6/28/2013, E93 M3's built 8/29/2009 to 10/1/2013) have a hidden reimbursement warranty, to include past repairs, for the Footwell (FRM) Module (controls lights and windows) if it fails within 10 years or 156,000 miles under BMW SI B01 20 16.

Takata Airbag Recall
Battery Cable Recall
Idle Control Valve Hidden Extended Warranty
Footwell (FRM) Module Hidden Extended Warranty

12. The E9X M3's original batteries were Absorbed Glass Mat (AGM) group 49 type battery, 900 Cold Cranking Amps (CCA) and 90 Amp Hours (Ah). You can't buy those exact specs anymore. Instead the BMW batteries for the E9X M3 now offer AGM "group 49", 850 CCA and 92 Ah, which are the same specs as the Sears DieHard Gold AGM and nearly the same for the Bosch 49-850BAGM with 850 CCA and 90 AH. The Autozone Duralast AGM "group 49" and Advance Auto Parts AutoCraft Gold AGM "group 49" models offer 900 CCA and 92 AH.
Replacement Battery Options

13. If your E9X M3's A/C is low on freon its most likely the evaporator failing. It is built of especially low quality. Good news is the replacement part is not too expensive. The bad news is your dealer will likely charge you for a full day or two of labor. If you have any warranty remaining, have someone take a close look at the condition of this part before it expires.

This A/C Component Will Fail First

14. The E9X M3's came standard from the factory with orange peel paint and some ever so slightly misaligned body panels. Just call it Bavarian character.

BMW Orange Peel Paint
Gap Between Hood and Front Bumper
Rear Bumper Alignment

15. The E9X M3's S65 motors respond really well to early replacement of the spark plugs (the car's manual calls for 37,000 mile service intervals). You can feel a difference, even if the spark plugs coming out of the car only had 10,000 miles on them. This is a great afternoon project if you are eager to improve the performance of your new to you M3. Consider doing this inexpensive upgrade instead of breaking out that black Krylon to tint those rear tailights. Some have also theorized worn spark plugs on S65 motors may be a contributing factor to rod bearing failure.

Early Spark Plug Replacement
Theory Discussed - Worn S65 Spark Plugs May Increase Rod Bearing Failure Risk

16. E9X M3's wear through motor mounts really fast, as within 30,000 miles they can start to fall apart. Changing them out earlier than you would for another model car makes for a measurable and immediate improvement in the shifting of your car. Don't bother with the transmission mounts unless you are over 100k as they hold up very well.

Fast Wearing Motor Mounts

17. Code readers, either a stand alone unit or a cell phone app type with a bluetooth/wifi OBDII port adapter, are great for this car. Buy one asap.

Code Readers

18. The engine is extremely impressive.

M3 V8 An Inside Look

19. E9X M3's are much more fun to drive than to look at.

Experienced E9X M3 owners, feel free to add to the list.

Such a useful post, thank you!

[lord_flashheart2000]

Great thread! I wish I known...

A: That it's a bad idea to buy one on a whim. I wanted to own a convertible for a summer road trip, and I wanted to own a V8 before they're legislated off the road. I bought a used 2008 M3 thinking I'd just drive it for a few months and then sell it. My summer romance turned into a long term relationship that I can't get out of.

B: That it would make me hate pretty much every car I'd subsequently drive. I travel a lot, and even upgraded brand new rental cars feel like crap compared to my M3.

C: That everyone would want to race me. Every time I stop at a red light some kid in a WRX, and (lately) a Hyundai Stinger will pull up alongside me and rev his engine like we're in American Graffiti or something.

oh, and

D: That even the simplest of repairs can be jaw-droppingly expensive. I kinda knew what I was getting into, but holy crap it's a money pit!

[tbuck]

Originally Posted by lord_flashheart2000

B: That it would make me hate pretty much every car I'd subsequently drive. I travel a lot, and even upgraded brand new rental cars feel like crap compared to my M3.

It is very hard for those that have never driven an M3 for any length of time to fully appreciate this. Maybe coming from a P-car would not give this feeling, but otherwise nothing will match up.

Originally Posted by lord_flashheart2000

D: That even the simplest of repairs can be jaw-droppingly expensive. I kinda knew what I was getting into, but holy crap it's a money pit!

It pays to be handy enough to do the basics on this platform(and most other M3's as well). On the positive side there is a wealth of DIY's and videos taking you through just about everything you could need/want to do. But parts, both OE and aftermarket, are not cheap and will stack up cost very quickly. I don't know if I would go so far as to say money pit, but if you get a maintenance-needy or higher mileage example it can sure seem that way.

Welcome to the family!

[Assimilator1]

lord_flashheart2000
D: That even the simplest of repairs can be jaw-droppingly expensive

Like what?
I'd say the 2 main expensive (not simplest repairs) are throttle bodies and rod bearings. Excluding destroying things like the engine of course!
Tyres are pretty expensive (I'd guess brakes might be too??), but not more than I'd expect for this kind of car.
I had to change aux belt pulleys recently, that was no more than any other car, and I'm going to have to change the aux belt tensioner (seized pivot), and whilst ~£150 for the part isn't cheap, it isn't ludicrous either. And I was pleasantly surprised to find it's quite easy to do too!

[KN19Sub]

I enjoyed watching the video, thanks for the thread.

[TCrush]

Great thread

[AntCioffi]

thank you bro!

[TCrush]

Do any other BMW brakes fit on the e9x M3 directly?