Corvette ZR1 laps the 'Ring in 7:26.4:

[Keto]

Originally Posted by BMW-videos.com

The AWD drive debate is getting stupid old, and its pretty pathetic that people would actually think a 3800+IB car with 480hp is going to beat out a sub 3200 IB car, with 505hp and 470ish IB of torque.

Sshhh, physics do not apply to magazine racing.

[BMW-videos.com]

aye mang, i'm no physics master or even a master of the automobile, but i'm not that damn gullible. When the GTR comes out and proves what it states as truth i'll take it like a man, but I believe it to be highly unlikely.

[440hpe46]

Time will tell, Sportauto will let us know the real deal...

[spearfisher]

Impressive times, as of now, time will tell as more facts come out, but I'm impressed

[malter2.0]

after seeing workers at this plant, i would never consider buying a corvette even if it laps ring in 4 mins. driving a C6 just cemented this even more.

check out the method he uses to determine if two panels are even (at 2:14). the hand method what a joke!
no hard hats, no safety shoes...compare that to german workers who are in uniforms with proper safety equipment. that one guy is working in his shorts! two worlds apart.

http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080623....uction-started

[lucid]

How many are they planning to build a year or total production?

[BMW-videos.com]

Originally Posted by malter2.0

after seeing workers at this plant, i would never consider buying a corvette even if it laps ring in 4 mins. driving a C6 just cemented this even more.

check out the method he uses to determine if two panels are even (at 2:14). the hand method what a joke!
no hard hats, no safety shoes...compare that to german workers who are in uniforms with proper safety equipment. that one guy is working in his shorts! two worlds apart.

http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080623....uction-started

I don't see how your attire would say anything at all. You'd never buy a corvette because the workers are human, and there are people and not machines hand checking portions of the car. Okay, so much for hand built being quality, and who says these cars aren't taken through a more rigorous process later? This is a video meant to show some portion of the construction, it in no way shows all the process. Don't buy a corvette, it's not in everyones heart to recognize their countries products as ones of value.

[malter2.0]

Originally Posted by BMW-videos.com

I don't see how your attire would say anything at all. You'd never buy a corvette because the workers are human, and there are people and not machines hand checking portions of the car. Okay, so much for hand built being quality, and who says these cars aren't taken through a more rigorous process later? This is a video meant to show some portion of the construction, it in no way shows all the process. Don't buy a corvette, it's not in everyones heart to recognize their countries products as ones of value.

Alluding to manufacturing organization, which if you ever worked in manufacturing environment, is very important. Look at for example the video of E46 manufacturing process to see the level of detail and uniformity. From the video, ZR-1 assemblers look extremely amateurish wouldn't you say? Billy-Bob and the likes talking like they have marbles in their mouth or lump of long-cut skoal.

[spearfisher]

Originally Posted by malter2.0

Alluding to manufacturing organization, which if you ever worked in manufacturing environment, is very important. Look at for example the video of E46 manufacturing process to see the level of detail and uniformity. From the video, ZR-1 assemblers look extremely amateurish wouldn't you say? Billy-Bob and the likes talking like they have marbles in their mouth or lump of long-cut skoal.

yes the build quality and quality of materials used on the interior might not be as high as the BMW, but I think your biased opinion of the vette makes you harder on the vehicle than needed, each person has his or her own taste, when it comes to a good auto.

I have driven all types of vehicles, before my purchase, and I find for the performance I get with the drivability of the vette exceeded my expectations.

One thing I must say, I can track my car and run the 1/4 mile 10 times or more in a row with no problems, that says a lot for durability and build quality from a mechanical aspect.

Also from a performance standpoint, where car you get a vehicle that responds so well to just bolt on modifications and still stay reliable, a 11 second daily driver C6 is very common.

[BMW-videos.com]

To get back on topic, the video of the run is already out guys. Check it out.

http://www.vette-videos.com/The-Ulti...gyUCOD-tc.html

[spearfisher]

nice video, all I got to say is WOW

[lucid]

That's pretty insane however you look at it. It hit 178 mph.

[th3Stig]

With a headwind. That car is nasty. malter2.0, you're critique of how they build Corvettes still can't denounce the fact that "stupid factory workers" make a truly incredible machine. Made in the USA

[malter2.0]

performance wise vette is the best buy. i never argued that.

[E394KEN]

ZR1 amazing machine. If they had a twin clutch Id be all over it, or a used one once the 50 + drivers got tired of it J/K to all my grey hair friends. I wish that Chevys service dept could match its level of cars being manufactured. Their service is very piss poor. But back to the point ZR1>Z06>GTR. My only complaint is that Vettes are all to common because of the bargain price point. On a recent trip to Big Bear Lake in California I must of seen twenty plus C6 Vettes, going up and down the mountain. I'd like to not be a snob but I dont really like the idea of owning a very common car.

[440hpe46]

Originally Posted by E394KEN

ZR1 amazing machine. If they had a twin clutch Id be all over it, or a used one once the 50 + drivers got tired of it J/K to all my grey hair friends. I wish that Chevys service dept could match its level of cars being manufactured. Their service is very piss poor. But back to the point ZR1>Z06>GTR. My only complaint is that Vettes are all to common because of the bargain price point. On a recent trip to Big Bear Lake in California I must of seen twenty plus C6 Vettes, going up and down the mountain. I'd like to not be a snob but I dont really like the idea of owning a very common car.

That's akin to saying that 3 series are to common, so therefore, one wouldn't own an M due to that fact...

And it depends on which dealer you go to...

[footie]

Here's the GTR's 7:29 lap along side the ZR1's lap of 7:26 so you can compare and see how that heavy Nissan can keep up with the mighty ZR1.

Now when you match the cars up exactly the same point on the track you will find that the GTR goes under the bridge near the end of the lap 3 seconds after the ZR1, to me that all the proof I needed to know that the GTR's time wasn't market BS, the car is that much quicker than the M3 and all others.

Shame it's still a pig with lipstick.

[bruce.augenstein@comcast.]

Originally Posted by footie

Shame it's still a pig with lipstick.

[footie]

Originally Posted by bruce.augenstein@comcast.

You like that one Bruce.