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As much as I absolutely love the idea of an X51 997(.2)S, I would likely opt for the turbo as the cost would be so high. With that said, X51, PCCB, 20mm suspension and LSD would be quite a car for some time, imo. I heard that Porsche is supposed to send Sport Auto their fastest version of the 997S soon. That would be great if it had X51. Will you go with PDK? |
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except the color sux for a supossed sports car. It is also not the right trannie either. But other than those 2 things your right.
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I will be well satisfied with a car that can do 0-100km/h in 4.3s and top out at 300km/h, not to mention highly commendable consumption figures. So, X51 is not necessary for me. PDK is a must. I'll stay with the standard PASM with Sports Chrono Plus, and probably the LSD for improved traction in the bends. PCCB is tempting but expensive
Btw, did you guys noticed the S delivers its max HP at a relatively low 6500rpm? Considering the engine produces 101.3HP/L, it seems the power unit is capable of a lot more with some tuning . |
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06-07-2008, 06:22 PM | #28 | |
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X51 to me is relevant because I am not going to wait until the GT3 gets its facelift with PDK. X51 is rumored to add 30 hp, putting the 997S exactly at the GT3's hp level but with the addition of PDK. With the sport suspension, it is like getting a GT3 with PDK early, almost . |
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06-07-2008, 06:59 PM | #29 | |
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Also, as much as I love the technological advantages of these type transmissions, things like launch control and the speed of the shifts are not that important to me. I find the 7 gears more of a deciding factor, but not enough (with this type engine) to compel me to go this route. If I ever ordered a M car, then I most likely would, for the reasons stated above. |
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The stats for both new transmissions in both models are mighty impressive and considering where the engine is these figures should be easier obtained by would be customers, something I feel most here will agree that won't be the case with the manual M3 and ever possibly with the DCT car too.
I also wait with anticipation to hear what the mags make of the new PDK, I believe it and Audi's version share a lot in common but obviously Porsche will have their tweaks to both the software and it's architecture. I also wonder whether it will follow BMW's views by always start in manual mode, also is it known if Porsche are using paddles or still the buttons on the wheel. Many questions yet to be answered. Either way this new improved 911 has made great strides in everything instead on it's looks. |
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06-08-2008, 06:16 PM | #33 | |
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Just received my info pack from the dealer, 3yrs since I bought my last Porsche and they are still trying. Anyway I see it the buttons, once again, God knows why they insist in using them as they are not as handly as the paddles in my opinion.
It also states that Porshce are offering a more aggressive shift pattern for track use, don't know what this will be. Maybe something similar to the GTR or even dare I say it the M-DCT. |
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06-18-2008, 01:49 PM | #35 |
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LOVE that baby shit Tan frickin interior on those P cars!!!!!!!!!
WTF are they thinking? Fing TAN!!!!!!!!!!!! why o why ? Funny thing they are just getting direct injection,,, 335 already has it,'07. Also they are getting the start off assist just like the 335i already has,, in '07. Great catch up job....... 911's are just way way too pricey. The Cayman is said to get a bump to 315hp,, not sure about DI thou? On a side note,,, one funky color Porsche has is Macadamion Metalic,, O my its sweet! And thats not a smart azz comment. Dosnt the Cayman have more luggage/space than a 911? |
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I wasn't aware that the 335 had DI. Anyway, you're complaing about the P car just getting it, while the new M3 still doesn't. And, who cares about luggage space when buying a pure sports car; look for a Lincoln if you want luggage space. |
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06-19-2008, 10:39 AM | #37 | |
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Maximum revs to currently the problem with DI, Lamborghini P560 is the highest revving DI engine and it's limit is 8000rpm, so if BMW had have wanted to limit the M3's revs to 8000rpm or less then it too could have got DI but when a company such as Porsche at the fore front of engineering excellence then I have to agree with silvrevo that Porsche should have done it sooner. |
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Since when has Porsche been at the 'forefront of engineering excellence?' Sure they make good cars, but in the last fifteen years what significant technologies has Porsche pioneered? Until the new tranny they were using an ancient 5 speed auto. Porsche is damn lucky they get to share so much VW R&D and become the most profitable car company in the world. That happens by not spending money on research, design, or engineering. It comes from making constantly similar cars, charging for every option, and raiding VW's corporate parts bin. They only really produce two models anyway, the 911 and Boxter/Cayman. Oh, and reaping the benefits of the Touraeg by making the Cayenne.
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Tan interior ... meh. Standard, the Porsches have lots of plastic. It looks cheap too. But when you put in leather it's gorgeous and expensive. If you think BMW nickels and dimes you for options, go take a look a Porsche.
Even if PDK offers better performance I don't think I'd take it. Porsche's are the sweetest shifting cars I've ever driven. Might I even say sublime? Plus, PDK uses buttons on steering wheel. WTF? I had paddles with SMG and it was the most natural thing to use. But buttons ... just eww. The performance boost coming is great to hear. I also expect a price boost. A nicely outfitted S with X51 is what I'd like to get but will likely be big bucks. If the price were closer to an M3 it would be a no brainer for me. Fortunately, you get pretty much all of the thrill of a Porsche with the M3 yet with more practicality (comfort and luxury too) at less cost. But if I could get a really sweet deal on a 997S ...
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Another car that I have zero interest in..... Boy Porsche really innovated here.
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Well, to each his own. Personally I feel Porsche's are a thrill to drive. And dare I say, the 997S is a tad nicer at this than the M3. Of course it's subjective. Cheers.
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New tech does not necessarily equate to better. Porsche's "old tech" steering systems and Honda's archaic manual trannies will put any other manufactures "advanced" systems to shame. |
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I don't remember saying the M3's engine was better than the GT3's, no need to take it so personally, just because they have one engine that is 0.4L smaller and makes the same amount of power doesn't mean Porsche is an engineering marvel. Keep in mind that the GT3 base price is twice as much as the M3.
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