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      01-12-2013, 06:22 AM   #45
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      01-12-2013, 06:49 AM   #46
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Nice vid, nice race track aswell
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      01-12-2013, 06:59 AM   #47
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Thanks. Chuckwalla is a great track. The surface is very new and well maintained. It's a very technical track with some small elevation changes and lots of run-off room. The owner is always present and making sure that an event is running well as well as monitoring the surface and overall conditions.

The surface can hold a lot of grip if it's sunny and I find it an endlessly challenging track. It tends to equalize higher and lower HP street cars since there is only one short straight and the rest is a mix of low speed to mid speed corners. The event was with Star.
As someone who tracks regularly at Lime Rock, this place looks so much easier to get moving. Much wider, no guard rails, no trees, incredible runoff room..too bad it's so far from me.
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      01-16-2013, 11:11 AM   #48
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LOL as I was watching this video I thought to myself: "Why does that M3 sound so different?" Then I realize its a 1M lol. Great vid thanks for sharing.
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      01-16-2013, 07:26 PM   #50
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No, not an M3, but definitely very quick and fun to drive. Rob - do you have an S2K and do you ever track?
I had 2 lol. I tracked one of them but I have since sold both.
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      01-16-2013, 07:43 PM   #51
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Awesome video,S2K are great cars on the track.
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      01-16-2013, 08:34 PM   #52
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LOL as I was watching this video I thought to myself: "Why does that M3 sound so different?" Then I realize its a 1M lol. Great vid thanks for sharing.
That's funny! I was wondering the same thing before realizing it was a 1M.
Nice vid!
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      01-19-2013, 09:01 PM   #53
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He had 210 RWHP and you couldn't pass him in your 1 series M coupe? Do you think you could even hang with him if his s2000 was boosted?
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      01-22-2013, 10:54 AM   #54
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The short answer is no. On a relatively tight track there is simply not enough room on the short straights to execute a safe pass. This particular S2000 has several notable advantages over the 1M. Even though the 1M has a superior power to weight ratio that is just one of several factors that go into the lap time. The S2000 suspension although over a decade old is superior to the 1M. The 1M uses a strut suspension and while it is compact and allows for a design that intrudes far less into the engine bay or passenger compartment, it is no match for a double wishbone suspension setup. The S2000 has practically endless front grip and rarely encounters much understeer. My 1M suspension is almost stock and although I have a lot camber, it still understeers in many situations where the S2000 just sticks. The S2000 has Tein SRC coilovers which are very dialed in for the track.

The S2000 is over 500 lbs lighter than the 1M. This combined with the ability to carry higher speeds through the corners means that the S2000's exit speeds are generally a little higher. This means that he is entering the straight at a higher speed than the 1M and I have to catch up. Because the S2K is lighter, that means he can brake later and deeper into the corner, where I need to scrub off speed earlier.

We found that in comparing vmax at the end of the short straights I might be 5-6mph faster, that's not enough to cleanly pass him. On a longer straight I could definitely pass him but it's really not as easy as you think. This is not a simple highway 'pull' where the 1M would obviously pull away from the S2K.

Finally, my friend is an excellent driver and improving constantly (as am I). We make great foils for each other and it's a lot of fun to engage in the chase. We compare notes with our other track friend regularly. Things are not really as they seem in a track environment. I have seen relatively stock Miatas pass Ferraris. Driver talent and experience has a LOT do with it. It's definitely nowhere as easy as it looks. Also, we drive with traction control completely off in case you were wondering.
Yea but if your friend is boosted, he will be pulling on you instead on the straights LOL so no chance of beating him even if you started in the lead?
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      01-22-2013, 03:05 PM   #55
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I think that goes without saying. A FI S2K driven well is in an entirely different category. It's apples and oranges.
True. Do you think FI s2k is on the same level as c6 z06 on track then since s2k is even lighter and boosted to the around the same HP?
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Every track is different so it's difficult to compare these hypotheticals, but FI S2Ks can brutally fast because of the inherent weight advantage and superior power to weight ratio. The S2K is difficult to drive quickly and requires a very different driving technique than bigger, heavier cars.
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      01-22-2013, 09:42 PM   #58
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Nice vid!
S2k it's a great track car. Nice 50-50 balance,
God I missed my ap2!
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Why don't u sell your 1m and get a s2k drop 40k on it as your track car?
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      01-22-2013, 10:51 PM   #60
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I had an S2000 for about 2.5 years before buying my M3 back in July. This may sound crazy but I do miss the S2000 so I'm selling the M3 to get another S2000.
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True. Do you think FI s2k is on the same level as c6 z06 on track then since s2k is even lighter and boosted to the around the same HP?
Hard to judge considering the Z06 would most likely blow it's engine trying to overtake the S2k


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My plan is to keep the 1M and pick up an S2K as a track car later this year. And no, I won't be dropping $40K on it unless you want to sponsor me
LOL get a shop to sponsor you! So you rather have a boosted s2k than a 1m or m3 for the track?
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      01-23-2013, 10:14 PM   #63
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Another ex owner of a NFR AP2 s2000. I still consider it my favorite car of all time and sure will be picking up another one when my lease is up. Great video btw!
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I love my 1M, but consumables get *incredibly* expensive if you track frequently. The M3 is similar in consumable cost, hence I'm aiming for a much lighter car that's a lot cheaper to track. 50% cost = double track time! I just did the math for you
What about the evo x?
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Do you even own a car?
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What about the evo x?
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