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      01-20-2014, 11:38 PM   #1
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The one-two punch: first Z06, now a pair of ATS-V's and .. OMG!!!!!

Taken from http://wot.motortrend.com/1401_cadil..._turbo_v6.html

Since the launch of the Cadillac ATS, we’ve waited with baited breath for an ATS-V. Now, we can share some details, and they’re better than you could hope. Yes, Virginia, there will be an ATS-V, and it will be powered by Cadillac’s twin-turbo 3.6-liter V-6 making 425 hp.

Better yet, it’s slated to get a seven-speed manual gearbox option. Even better than that is Cadillac's plan for an ATS-V+, which will get an even more powerful V-8, and could arrive as soon as 2017. Could the V-8 be the new supercharged, "625+ hp" LT4 from the 2015 Corvette Z06? We sure hope so. What's not getting the LT4 is the new Cadillac CTS-V. Instead, it gets a new twin-turbo version of the Corvette’s LT1 V-8, an engine that's also slated for the next Corvette ZR1. Additional plans call for seven-speed manual, an eight-speed auto, and a dual-clutch transmission, though that quick-shifting gearbox probably won’t arrive until early 2015. In all, the ATS family appears to be filling out quite nicely. The 2015 Cadillac ATS coupe, made its debut at the 2014 Detroit auto show, with the two-door sporting sleek lines and Caddy's new badge that ditches the wreath. Like the sedan, the ATS coupe is offered with the turbo-four and V-6 and rear or all-wheel drive. That said, expect the V treatment to carryover to the two-door ATS as well."


Leaving off the ZR1 talk because it's way too early to discuss that, this is absolutely FABULOUS news for us E9X M3 owners who don't want to give up the V8 in search for our next cars. All Hail the ATS-V+!!! (actually I think the V8 version will just be called "ATS-V" whereas the 3.6 TT version will be called the "ATS V-sport" like its CTS cousin)
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      01-21-2014, 12:00 AM   #2
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2017 is far away. not sure i like the looks of the ATS when compared to CTS.

although looks to be a solid car.
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      01-21-2014, 12:13 AM   #3
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I don't know why but I just can't get excited about a Cadillac. Maybe it's just me.

I don't think I'll ever own one however, this twin turbo V8 sounds neat.
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I don't know why but I just can't get excited about a Cadillac. Maybe it's just me.

I don't think I'll ever own one however, this twin turbo V8 sounds neat.
I have that same feeling. I'm sure it'll be a great car, but it just doesn't excite me. Call me a brand whore
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      01-21-2014, 10:37 AM   #5
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Displacement: 218 cu in, 3564 cc
Power: 420 hp @ 5750 rpm
Torque: 430 lb-ft @ 3500 rpm

TRANSMISSION:
8-speed automatic with manual shifting mode

DIMENSIONS:
Wheelbase: 114.6 in
Length: 195.5 in
Width: 72.2 in Height: 57.2 in
Curb weight: 3966 lb

C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 4.4 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 10.5 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 18.5 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 4.8 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 2.5 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 3.2 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 12.9 sec @ 111 mph
Top speed (drag limited, mfr's claim): 172 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 149 ft
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PRICE AS TESTED: $60,095 (base price: $59,995)


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I have that same feeling. I'm sure it'll be a great car, but it just doesn't excite me. Call me a brand whore
It's not the brand for me. I just think they are extremely hideous looking cars. I don't know why most american "luxury" cars have to look so gaudy.
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      01-23-2014, 06:45 PM   #7
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It's going to have much potential....BUT....for some odd reason I can never tell which cadillac is which. THEY ALL LOOK THE SAME TO ME.
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      01-23-2014, 06:49 PM   #8
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I can appreciate the drivetrain, but like most of us in this thread, I'll never consider owning one.
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      01-23-2014, 11:29 PM   #9
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I didn't realize there was such a strong stigma around the Cadillac brand ...
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      01-24-2014, 11:51 PM   #10
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I like what Cadillac has going on, they are getting their mojo together.

Well built, excellent steering feedback, rock solid chassis, with the CTSV and CTS outsporting BMW at their own game.

While I agree the look is not for everybody, the CTS-V and new CTS are excellent drivers. I missed the steering feedback of the CTSV vs. my M6, and even M3 after a few drives.

While I'm still a BMW fan and love their cars, I really don't like how they have dumbed down the new 5 and 3. Now that they are comfortable and quiet cars that suit all ages and driving needs, it makes them less desirable to me...
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It's not the brand for me. I just think they are extremely hideous looking cars. I don't know why most american "luxury" cars have to look so gaudy.
It seems american automakers still consider luxury to mean chrome, hailing back to the 50s and before.
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It seems american automakers still consider luxury to mean chrome, hailing back to the 50s and before.
The ATS at the Detroit car show had a nice subtle brush alum (looking) grill. The car was dark grey and had very nice wheels, it was a really clean looking car. I have no idea how they drive, but they lease super cheap I think my father is going to get one for his daily.
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It's not the brand for me. I just think they are extremely hideous looking cars. I don't know why most american "luxury" cars have to look so gaudy.
It seems american automakers still consider luxury to mean chrome, hailing back to the 50s and before.
Spot on. All they keep doing is adding ugly ass chrome to everything. Especially on tahoe/yukons. It's all over!
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Spot on. All they keep doing is adding ugly ass chrome to everything. Especially on tahoe/yukons. It's all over!
i was thinking about getting my ec-7s chromed for my track car? sound like a good idea. make it more up scale.
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It seems american automakers still consider luxury to mean chrome, hailing back to the 50s and before.




What does that have to do with the ATS?
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It's going to have much potential....BUT....for some odd reason I can never tell which cadillac is which. THEY ALL LOOK THE SAME TO ME.
Cadillac is getting like Nissan where you ask for a small, medium or large Altima. Actually quite a few brands are following this philosophy...including BMW.
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Cadillac is getting like Nissan where you ask for a small, medium or large Altima. Actually quite a few brands are following this philosophy...including BMW.
VERY TRUE. I find the the rears of the 3, 5 and 7 look so much alike. I gotta get close to know which car I'm looking at. Haha
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VERY TRUE. I find the the rears of the 3, 5 and 7 look so much alike. I gotta get close to know which car I'm looking at. Haha
Yep. The 3 vs 5 sometimes throws me for a loop and we're car guys.
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It looks ugly to me but the m3/m4 has some serious competition this gen.
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No way will ATS V have 625 HP, it'll have 500 tops.
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