Solution for KW Clubsport Inner Wheel Clearance Issues

slicer · 11-09-2015, 08:56 AM

GC and TC Kline make nice kits but not on same level as KW Clubsports.

Ohlin R&T aren't complete. No camber plates included. A friend of mine switched from Ohlins to Clubsports because they were noisy. I think it was due to camber plates. Not sure.

All are viable options that I would consider. Clubsports are simply the best bang for the buck complete package IMO.

m3aviator · 11-09-2015, 01:16 PM

So before I buy my CS will they fit?

Front: 265/30 19x10+20
Rear: 285/30 19x11+25

Malek@MRF · 11-09-2015, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by m3aviator

So before I buy my CS will they fit?

Front: 265/30 19x10+20
Rear: 285/30 19x11+25

Yes, they will.

m3aviator · 11-09-2015, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by m3aviator

So before I buy my CS will they fit?

Front: 265/30 19x10+20
Rear: 285/30 19x11+25

Yes, they will.

Thanks malek now if I could only afford 3 ways

M3 Number 86 · 12-02-2015, 03:17 PM

Removed helpers and had them corner balanced. No issues unless you catch air but even then there is only an inch gap and spring is compressed when car is on the ground.

Tire is 275 nt01 18x10et25 with 5mm spacer. I can ditch the spacer but who cares just left it on.

redpriest · 12-02-2015, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by M3 Number 86

Removed helpers and had them corner balanced. No issues unless you catch air but even then there is only an inch gap and spring is compressed when car is on the ground.

Tire is 275 nt01 18x10et25 with 5mm spacer. I can ditch the spacer but who cares just left it on.

No studs broken this time out? Have yet to break one of mine - but you and dogbone both have me paranoid about it now.

m3aviator · 12-02-2015, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by M3 Number 86

Removed helpers and had them corner balanced. No issues unless you catch air but even then there is only an inch gap and spring is compressed when car is on the ground.

Tire is 275 nt01 18x10et25 with 5mm spacer. I can ditch the spacer but who cares just left it on.

Good to know they can come out.

M3 Number 86 · 12-02-2015, 05:39 PM

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Removed helpers and had them corner balanced. No issues unless you catch air but even then there is only an inch gap and spring is compressed when car is on the ground.

Tire is 275 nt01 18x10et25 with 5mm spacer. I can ditch the spacer but who cares just left it on.

No studs broken this time out? Have yet to break one of mine - but you and dogbone both have me paranoid about it now.

Lol. None broken. It was due to a 10mm spacer and what I believe is that 75mm studs aren't long enough. I have 82mm now.

Don't know if the pic loaded so here it is.

Regarding helper I found threads from over 10 years ago from track people so I said fuck it I'm just doing it lol.

Move Over · 12-03-2015, 04:54 PM

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Lol. None broken. It was due to a 10mm spacer and what I believe is that 75mm studs aren't long enough. I have 82mm now.

Don't know if the pic loaded so here it is.

Regarding helper I found threads from over 10 years ago from track people so I said fuck it I'm just doing it lol.

Did this rub with the helper spring installed? 275 with a 5mm?

M3 Number 86 · 12-03-2015, 05:29 PM

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Lol. None broken. It was due to a 10mm spacer and what I believe is that 75mm studs aren't long enough. I have 82mm now.

Don't know if the pic loaded so here it is.

Regarding helper I found threads from over 10 years ago from track people so I said fuck it I'm just doing it lol.

Did this rub with the helper spring installed? 275 with a 5mm?

On nt01 it did slightly when the tire flexed. For other it didn't. Don't know why. I saw slight marring on the sidewalk so decided to take them out.

Move Over · 12-03-2015, 11:07 PM

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On nt01 it did slightly when the tire flexed. For other it didn't. Don't know why. I saw slight marring on the sidewalk so decided to take them out.

Gotcha. Hoping I don't have to do the same with my RS3's

M3 Number 86 · 12-03-2015, 11:47 PM

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On nt01 it did slightly when the tire flexed. For other it didn't. Don't know why. I saw slight marring on the sidewalk so decided to take them out.

Gotcha. Hoping I don't have to do the same with my RS3's

For rs3 5mm spacers were good to go!

Move Over · 12-04-2015, 08:25 PM

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For rs3 5mm spacers were good to go!

Awesome, clubsports are in the mail. Should be installing them next week...car is currently on jackstands waiting for them in the garage

M3 Number 86 · 12-04-2015, 11:55 PM

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For rs3 5mm spacers were good to go!

Awesome, clubsports are in the mail. Should be installing them next week...car is currently on jackstands waiting for them in the garage

Make sure front springs are at least 110nm

Move Over · 12-05-2015, 06:28 AM

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For rs3 5mm spacers were good to go!

Awesome, clubsports are in the mail. Should be installing them next week...car is currently on jackstands waiting for them in the garage

Make sure front springs are at least 110nm

It looks like the front springs are 500lb, or 87nmm. I ordered whatever came OEM on the CS.

AriuSen · 12-05-2015, 04:02 PM

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It looks like the front springs are 500lb, or 87nmm. I ordered whatever came OEM on the CS.

i think u ordered the old model...new ones come with 110

Move Over · 12-05-2015, 07:40 PM

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i think u ordered the old model...new ones come with 110

Hm, I'm not sure. Mine are coming straight from KW Germany...

m3aviator · 12-07-2015, 11:36 AM

I'm planning on ordering track wheels for a 275 square setup with KW CS.

18x10 +20 square.

Will this work?

Move Over · 12-11-2015, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by m3aviator

I'm planning on ordering track wheels for a 275 square setup with KW CS.

18x10 +20 square.

Will this work?

That should work. I'm running a +20 up front -2.8 camber, +10 rear with a -1.8 camber. Rubbed the plastic tab on the bumper...but no problem since it was just plastic. Rubbed all the way through and now there's no more rubbing. Rs3's btw if that is a factor.

M3 Number 86 · 12-15-2015, 11:54 AM

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That should work. I'm running a +20 up front -2.8 camber, +10 rear with a -1.8 camber. Rubbed the plastic tab on the bumper...but no problem since it was just plastic. Rubbed all the way through and now there's no more rubbing. Rs3's btw if that is a factor.

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Originally Posted by m3aviator

I'm planning on ordering track wheels for a 275 square setup with KW CS.

18x10 +20 square.

Will this work?

which wheels are you guys getting in that et20?

I was running +25 with a 5mm spacer and it was fine with RS3. But with NT01 it was minimal spacing (dental floss' worth). Weird because it worked for some people but it didn't work for me.

But removing the helper spring has worked for me so far. Still nothing out of the ordinary. No more sounds or creeks or anything vs using the helper.

Move Over · 12-15-2015, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by M3 Number 86

which wheels are you guys getting in that et20?

I was running +25 with a 5mm spacer and it was fine with RS3. But with NT01 it was minimal spacing (dental floss' worth). Weird because it worked for some people but it didn't work for me.

But removing the helper spring has worked for me so far. Still nothing out of the ordinary. No more sounds or creeks or anything vs using the helper.

I'm running a 5mm spacer with a ET 25 up front. So, effective offset would be a 20.

Question...my CLubsports just came in, they are a 110 up front and 120 rear. Does that sound correct?

AriuSen · 12-15-2015, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Move Over

I'm running a 5mm spacer with a ET 25 up front. So, effective offset would be a 20.

Question...my CLubsports just came in, they are a 110 up front and 120 rear. Does that sound correct?

yes....new ones come 110/120

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M3 Number 86 Major General 3221 Rep 6,218 Posts Drives: black m3 Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: pasadena iTrader: (1)	Removed helpers and had them corner balanced. No issues unless you catch air but even then there is only an inch gap and spring is compressed when car is on the ground. Tire is 275 nt01 18x10et25 with 5mm spacer. I can ditch the spacer but who cares just left it on. __________________ dadmobile IG: @M3number86 youtube: track vids
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