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      10-15-2020, 02:30 AM   #1871
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I agee with Scharbag on his comments regarding (possible) non existing measurement. However worth keeping in mind that ACL's quote a 0.008mm shell production tolerance - and folks that have measured apparently end up with an even tigher span.
Measured and pair shells obviously still very elegant and clearly tightening the clearance spec, but we're no talking night and day and the "risk" of getting the maximun 0.016mm clearance difference must be negligible.
The BE folks quote a wider production tolerance of I believe 0.013mm (due to the coating) hence increased reason to go through the process.
to tell the truth, it is very difficult for me to understand))
BE provides bearings with such a tolerance and then the dealer pairs them (up and down)?
** the "risk" is that you can get the wrong tolerance if the dealer did his job irresponsibly??
am I right?
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      10-15-2020, 05:05 AM   #1872
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That's not really the problem. There's no problem with shell variation within each ACL pack. The problem is that in each ACL kit (and King/etc) there are two packs. This is where the variation will creep in. To produce a bearing set providing the correct bore diameter they combine a "thin" pack of shells with a "fat" pack to create the set. This has been the case with every one of the hundreds of ACL sets I've meaured.

As I've mentioned before...I have measured packs of ACL HX shells that measure thicker than some H shells from other sets. You MUST measure when mixing sets if you presume to create an "extra clearance" set. A blindly "mixed" set isn't good enough and can create problems.

It has also been brought up previously that if the ACL heat shrunk packs have not been opened, and there are no visible measuring marks from a seller measuring them and re-packaging them as mixed/extra clearance/etc sets, then they have not been properly prepared. Certain vendors have already been caught over dishonest representations. Caveat Emptor.

We have been mixing and measuring ACL sets for years now and supplement our BE inventory when their supply wanes.
Ah, right, my bad Deansbimmer. My quick comment was general with regards to a standard set of shells (HX or H), not with regards to mixing the shells in which case I see your point and appreciate your valuable knowledge.
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      10-15-2020, 05:19 AM   #1873
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to tell the truth, it is very difficult for me to understand))
BE provides bearings with such a tolerance and then the dealer pairs them (up and down)?
** the "risk" is that you can get the wrong tolerance if the dealer did his job irresponsibly??
am I right?
BE "bin" (arranging the shells according to measured size, some are a little thicker, some are a little thinner)) and "pair them" (putting together two and two that combined result in a specific total thickness). All the dealer have to do is to not mix them up but to mount the pairs as they come delivered.

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      10-15-2020, 09:38 PM   #1874
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This video was off to me. I respect Evolve and their products but don't agree with their position that this is a 'serviceable item' and putting OE bearings back in.


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BE "bin" (arranging the shells according to measured size, some are a little thicker, some are a little thinner)) and "pair them" (putting together two and two that combined result in a specific total thickness). All the dealer have to do is to not mix them up but to mount the pairs as they come delivered.
Ok, I understand, thanks.
Have already done the order at this shop - https://shop.redline360.com/products...17000152072305
Will be waiting for....

I decided not to risk, thanks guys for the information! After replacement I'll give you detailed report. It'll be such a big service including service DCT + replacement bearings.

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      10-16-2020, 11:32 AM   #1876
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This video was off to me. I respect Evolve and their products but don't agree with their position that this is a 'serviceable item' and putting OE bearings back in.


Yikes... It would be like replacing a bad IMS bearing with another bad IMS bearing...
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Ok, I understand, thanks.
Have already done the order at this shop - https://shop.redline360.com/products...17000152072305
Will be waiting for....

I decided not to risk, thanks guys for the information! After replacement I'll give you detailed report. It'll be such a big service including service DCT + replacement bearings.
Best of luck to you, but be aware Redline is out of stock on BE just like everyone else. Itís been since June without stock and no real data on when it will be stocked, they just keep moving the date back every time the date gets close to their ETA. Itís been this way for months now.
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Best of luck to you, but be aware Redline is out of stock on BE just like everyone else. Itís been since June without stock and no real data on when it will be stocked, they just keep moving the date back every time the date gets close to their ETA. Itís been this way for months now.
Redline had already informed me about this situation
it's not good, but I'm ready to wait to February '21 to receive and then to replace bearings, hope to this time BE will be stocked)
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So are BE bearing unavailable at all during this time? Is there an estimated time when they will be readily available again?

Looking to do rod bearing over the winter here on my track car and trying to decide what to go with. BE was likely the first choice, but if they aren't available then I need to figure out which brand to go with instead..
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This video was off to me. I respect Evolve and their products but don't agree with their position that this is a 'serviceable item' and putting OE bearings back in.
Thought the same thing when I saw this
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