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[///M Kidding]

Hi, All

So I just purchased a set of Vorsteiner VFF103, and the front wheels' specs are 19x9.5J +22...I tried to put on 265/35/19 MPSS today, and it rubs really bad...

Anyone have experience with this? Any solutions or recommendations? Please let me know, Thanks.

[W Cole]

correct tire size is 265/30/19. Michelin has an amazing warranty - you can probably trade it out even though you have driven on it.

[w0ady]

What drop and alignment settings? I am running Apex ARC8s up front in 19x9.5 +22 with 265/35/19. About 1" drop, -1.8 camber and 5mm spacers. I actually rub a little under turning so I am swapping to 3mm spacers this weekend.

[///M Kidding]

Originally Posted by W Cole

correct tire size is 265/30/19. Michelin has an amazing warranty - you can probably trade it out even though you have driven on it.

I bought the tires from tirerack, do you think they can exchange them?

[///M Kidding]

Originally Posted by w0ady

What drop and alignment settings? I am running Apex ARC8s up front in 19x9.5 +22 with 265/35/19. About 1" drop, -1.8 camber and 5mm spacers. I actually rub a little under turning so I am swapping to 3mm spacers this weekend.

The car is on stock ZCP suspension, and everything is stock as well for now.

[BzsBimmer]

According to Apex, on the E9X M3, the recommended fitment to have the deepest concavity would be the 19x9.5" ET22 and 19x10.5" ET22 staggered fitment, in which you would use 265/30/19 and 285/30/19 sized street tires. If you are willing to roll your rear fenders, you can fit up to a 295/30/19 sized tire.

What are you rubbing on? Tire sidewall, fender lining?

[///M Kidding]

Originally Posted by BzsBimmer

According to Apex, on the E9X M3, the recommended fitment to have the deepest concavity would be the 19x9.5" ET22 and 19x10.5" ET22 staggered fitment, in which you would use 265/30/19 and 285/30/19 sized street tires. If you are willing to roll your rear fenders, you can fit up to a 295/30/19 sized tire.

What are you rubbing on? Tire sidewall, fender lining?

Actually I put on 295/30/19 on rear, it's just fine without any modification to the fender.
I don't know why the front tires rub crazy, it's rubbing on inside of the fender, I don't know what they are called, its the plastic parts that are right in front and behind the tires, it rubs when I turn my steering wheels...

[tlrid3r]

There is nothing you can do since your tires is too large. Try a 30 series

[///M Kidding]

Originally Posted by tlrid3r

There is nothing you can do since your tires is too large. Try a 30 series

I've heard people run 265/35 on the same wheel without any problems, I don't know why it's rubbing so bad on mine.

[Shredicus]

Originally Posted by ///M Kidding

I've heard people run 265/35 on the same wheel without any problems, I don't know why it's rubbing so bad on mine.

Running a 265/35/19 PSS on a ET22 9.5" VMR V710 front on stock suspension and I only rub on full lock and even then only minor. I've heard the PSS are "broad-shouldered" in that the sidewall protrudes quite a bit lending to these rubbing issues, but I can't explain why you're rubbing is so bad. Maybe the tire will push the fender liners out of the way

[///M Kidding]

Originally Posted by Shredicus

Running a 265/35/19 PSS on a ET22 9.5" VMR V710 front on stock suspension and I only rub on full lock and even then only minor. I've heard the PSS are "broad-shouldered" in that the sidewall protrudes quite a bit lending to these rubbing issues, but I can't explain why you're rubbing is so bad. Maybe the tire will push the fender liners out of the way

Thanks for the information bro, I don't know why is that... But I think I will have to get new tires and sell the 265/35...

[w0ady]

May want to look into adding some more negative camber and see if that helps?

[///M Kidding]

Originally Posted by w0ady

May want to look into adding some more negative camber and see if that helps?

Sure, I will do some research about it

[azndrunk74]

i'm running the same wheels with 265/35/19 PS2 tires. i even added 5mm spacers in the front for a final ET17. i'm on eibach springs, and -1.9 camber. i have absolutely 0 rub.

[///M Kidding]

Originally Posted by azndrunk74

i'm running the same wheels with 265/35/19 PS2 tires. i even added 5mm spacers in the front for a final ET17. i'm on eibach springs, and -1.9 camber. i have absolutely 0 rub.

Yeah, that what I'm confused about it.. My car's not even lowered, and it rubs crazy..

[bluehydros]

Are you only rubbing on full lock?

[z3papa]

Where are you rubbing? If it is the strut, get spacers. It if it other places, that will help in helping you but saying over and over, "it rubs" isn't getting us anywhere.

[w0ady]

Originally Posted by ///M Kidding

Actually I put on 295/30/19 on rear, it's just fine without any modification to the fender.
I don't know why the front tires rub crazy, it's rubbing on inside of the fender, I don't know what they are called, its the plastic parts that are right in front and behind the tires, it rubs when I turn my steering wheels...

Originally Posted by z3papa

Where are you rubbing? If it is the strut, get spacers. It if it other places, that will help in helping you but saying over and over, "it rubs" isn't getting us anywhere.

He gave more info above.

[z3papa]

How much clearance do you have to the outside of the fender? I'm guessing you will gain clearance to the strut and inside wheel well with just a little more spacing. You have to imagine the wheel on a pivot for purposes of clearance. Move that pivot slightly out and the front inside leading edge will clear if the problem is on turn in. If it was going forward, it would either be too much tire diameter or too much caster which can't be changed without plates.

[Hujan]

Width is not the problem. The tire is simply way too tall. You cannot make a 265/35/19 fit on the E9x M3. You need to go to a 265/30/19 or 275/30/19.

[///M Kidding]

Thanks everyone for the help.

It starts rubbing before I turn on full lock, I don't remember when exactly it starts rubbing since I already took the 265/35 tires off the car.

The rubbing is from the tires' shoulders to the plastic parts right in front and behind the tires.

I think the tires are too tall, but azndrunk74 said his 265/35 fits just fine... Is there a big difference between Pss and ps2?

[ben@tirerack]

Originally Posted by ///M Kidding

Thanks everyone for the help.

It starts rubbing before I turn on full lock, I don't remember when exactly it starts rubbing since I already took the 265/35 tires off the car.

The rubbing is from the tires' shoulders to the plastic parts right in front and behind the tires.

I think the tires are too tall, but azndrunk74 said his 265/35 fits just fine... Is there a big difference between Pss and ps2?

Height wouldn't be different between PSS and PS2. The shape of the shoulder could differ however. Also the fender liner clearances can vary slightly by year, model, and individual build of the car.

265/35R19 is too big to reliably fit the M3 although as noted above some have been able to make it work.