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      11-14-2018, 02:08 PM   #111
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From the article (below) though is what I keep reading from a variety of sources.

"In recent days, Scott and his allies have raised the prospect of rampant elections fraud - particularly in Democrat-heavy Broward - but have provided no evidence for those accusations.

Meanwhile, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement has said that it has not received any credible allegations of fraud or criminal activity. Likewise, the Department of State has said that election monitors dispatched to Broward have not seen any indications of fraud.

Sarah Revell, a spokesperson for the State Department, said in an email on Wednesday that the agency is working with law enforcement officials to monitor suspected elections fraud and criminal activity."
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So the Dems were apparently very successful in AZ. They not only stole the election, but they got the Republicans to go away very quietly about it?
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So the Dems were apparently very successful in AZ. They not only stole the election, but they got the Republicans to go away very quietly about it?
I think the general consensus is that AZ was a tight race, but ultimately the Democrat won fair and square. The FL race is a shit show and at best, the Broward elections supervisor was beyond criminally negligent in her duties and at worst, was actively promoting voter fraud.
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I think the general consensus is that AZ was a tight race, but ultimately the Democrat won fair and square. The FL race is a shit show and at best, the Broward elections supervisor was beyond criminally negligent in her duties and at worst, was actively promoting voter fraud.
With the election supervisor in question, why wouldn't they just call in a firm such as Deloitte to audit the count?
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So the Dems were apparently very successful in AZ. They not only stole the election, but they got the Republicans to go away very quietly about it?

I didn't make the thread title.
AZ was super close with no concession. Nothing but a congrats from her opponent, as it should be.
FL...not so much. It stinks.
No comment on the link you quoted?
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With the election supervisor in question, why wouldn't they just call in a firm such as Deloitte to audit the count?
LOL, of all the big-4, did you really just randomly pick Deloitte? They are seriously the red-headed stepchild of the audit world. They really are the 4-letter word at the PCAOB, lol.

https://goingconcern.com/deloitte-ag...itaker-audits/

https://goingconcern.com/footnotes-d...t-free-071514/

https://goingconcern.com/deloitte-s-...le-bad-audits/

https://goingconcern.com/ex-kpmg-aud...sider-trading/

https://goingconcern.com/deloitte-me...dit-work-fail/

https://goingconcern.com/deloitte-au...ble-china-far/

https://goingconcern.com/deloitte-au...investigation/

https://goingconcern.com/pcaob-alter...deloitte-kpmg/

https://goingconcern.com/audit-quali...s-pcaob-big-4/
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They were the first ones that popped in my head. I'm sure ACME Accounting would do a better job then what's currently going on.
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They were the first ones that popped in my head. I'm sure ACME Accounting would do a better job then what's currently going on.
LOL, no worries. As a PwC Alumni, I get testy about these things, hehe.
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I think the general consensus is that AZ was a tight race, but ultimately the Democrat won fair and square. The FL race is a shit show and at best, the Broward elections supervisor was beyond criminally negligent in her duties and at worst, was actively promoting voter fraud.

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I didn't make the thread title.
AZ was super close with no concession. Nothing but a congrats from her opponent, as it should be.
FL...not so much. It stinks.
No comment on the link you quoted?
I was just commenting to the the thread title/topic.

I did comment on the article. No comment on my comment about the comments?

I agree with you guys it is a shit show and about the main person/reason it is. But, I continue to be mystified by the Republicans that run the state and law enforcement continually saying that there is no credible allegations of fraud or criminal activity. Despite videos and numerous accusations from Trump and Scott etc. Why is that? The whole thing is bizarre as usual.
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LOL, no worries. As a PwC Alumni, I get testy about these things, hehe.
I have no skin in the game but I beat if I search goingconcern there are negative stories out there of all the top 4. All good.

In other news, did I read that the recount has to restart in some places because 'scanners' are overheating?
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Yesterday someone had forgotten to hit the switch that actually counted. Iirc the machine had been running for hours. They started over.

Yes. Ineptitude everywhere.
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The hounds have been released.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/flo...count-deadline
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I But, I continue to be mystified by the Republicans that run the state and law enforcement continually saying that there is no credible allegations of fraud or criminal activity. Despite videos and numerous accusations from Trump and Scott etc. Why is that? The whole thing is bizarre as usual.
That may have changed;
"In a letter released Wednesday, Bradley McKay, the department’s interim general counsel, wrote “making or using an altered form is a criminal offense under Florida law.”

Looks like the dems altered dates on the forms:

Okaloosa County supervisor of elections Paul Lux said she suspected the Florida Democratic Party was sending out altered forms on purpose, according to documents first reported by Politico.

"Citrus County Electinos Supervisor Susan Gill said in an email exchange she suspected Democrats as well. She claims she called a number received by a voters who had gotten an altered form and that the number was to the Florida Democratic Party."

Should not be to difficult for the Feds to verify this.
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That may have changed;
"In a letter released Wednesday, Bradley McKay, the department’s interim general counsel, wrote “making or using an altered form is a criminal offense under Florida law.”

Looks like the dems altered dates on the forms:

Okaloosa County supervisor of elections Paul Lux said she suspected the Florida Democratic Party was sending out altered forms on purpose, according to documents first reported by Politico.

"Citrus County Electinos Supervisor Susan Gill said in an email exchange she suspected Democrats as well. She claims she called a number received by a voters who had gotten an altered form and that the number was to the Florida Democratic Party."

Should not be to difficult for the Feds to verify this.

You wouldn't think so.
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You wouldn't think so.
In Florida, everything is hard to do.
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Federal judge pushing back on Nelson’s attempt to keep the count going on forever, so maybe this madness will eventually end (for example, before Thanksgiving):

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/pol...221722675.html
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At least it looks like my vote was counted.
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At least it looks like my vote was counted.
That's what a democratic nation gives to their citizens. One vote per voter.

As far as I remember, you're the lonesome voter here, at least with a pic. Good for you for taking the time!
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I suspect they were uploaded late in Broward because the actual recount would have cost Nelson more votes than Scott and put things even further out of reach for him:

https://www.tampabay.com/florida-pol...t-fewer-votes/

Per my previous posts, I still don’t understand why PB County (where I live) seems to be the only county that couldn’t finish the machine recounts because they can only scan votes for one race at a time. Ultimately, machine recounts are not going to overcome vote differentials in the thousands. If they did it would call the entire election into question.

So now onto manual recounts where Nelson’s team will likely try to argue something insane like people who didn’t vote for a senate candidate really meant to vote for him. He can choose to concede but no way that’s happening. No manual recounts for governor unless Gillum gets a judge to order it. He still hasn’t conceded either. I would say it’s a joke if it wasn’t such an embarrassment. Hopefully over soon unless Dems find a judge willing to rewrite state election laws / rules.
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I have to point at Scott. Bush removes an incompetent and puts in Snipes. Scott witnesses Snipes incompetence and illegalities and does nothing as governor. Now he's barking foul at her.

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Well, it looks like it is probably a lock for Desantis. Still waiting on the final certifications, but it seems pretty solid. Looks like recounts are still being finalized for Scott.

On an interesting side note, the GA governor race is nearly wrapped up with Kemp looking like he is the winner there. Thought this was a funny flashback for good old Hillary Clinton. Certainly no hypocrisy here, eh?



2016 - Hillary Clinton:

“We are a country based on laws and we’ve had hot, contested elections going back to the very beginning, but one of our hallmarks has always been that we accept the outcomes of our elections. I worry that candidate Donald Trump will accept the results of the elections, and that is simply unacceptable!”


2018 - Hillary Clinton:

“If she had a fair election, she already would have won. If Stacey Abrams doesn’t win in Georgia, they stole it. It's clear, and we should not accept these results!"


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