Motortrend best drivers car

[gonzo]

I am going to have to uh...again.
The 3 cars in the video you posted are
"4Matic " cars.

What am I missing?

[Falafel Combo]

New jaguar ran the same time as the almighty overhyped M6?

#bloatedbmws

[pkimM3r]

Originally Posted by gonzo

I am going to have to uh...again.
The 3 cars in the video you posted are
"4Matic " cars.

What am I missing?

that audi v10r8+ is a beast (my vote). that was the point. not all awd platforms are created equal....paraphase chris monkey: the best thing you can say about the r8 is that it doesn't feel like an audi. it actually gets sideways unlike the poor e63.

the day that bmw starts putting AWD in there M cars, is the day I will no longer own one.

[TSM330i]

Originally Posted by gonzo

^
The 14' e63 estate/saloon are now 4Matic .
It's the only way to keep them from just spinning the rubber off.

I like sleepers, even though a trained eye will know what the thing will do to them.

"dude...that station wagon just blew your doors off"
Love it.

+1
I have two coworkers that have CTS-V wagons. One is automatic (black) the other is manual with no sunroof! No one except car guys know what they are.

[NoMore335]

Give me the GT-R, Viper or V10 R8. I can't pick just one.

[blutattoo]

1. SLS
2. Carrera 4S
3. Audi R8 V10+

in that order

[Bingobimmer]

Watched all the hot lap videos today and from the drivers view point it seems like the porches are in the lead with the R8 v10 close behind. I'm sure the gtr will be in the top 5 because its a great car but to "electronic". He said the viper and m6 were very hard to drive so I'm guessing that rules them out. The aston and jag might be the best to look at but they're probably out too. OP thanks for starting this thread I love this competition. Here's hoping next year's will have a vette and m3

[300hp]

Originally Posted by Bingobimmer

Watched all the hot lap videos today and from the drivers view point it seems like the porches are in the lead with the R8 v10 close behind. I'm sure the gtr will be in the top 5 because its a great car but to "electronic". He said the viper and m6 were very hard to drive so I'm guessing that rules them out. The aston and jag might be the best to look at but they're probably out too. OP thanks for starting this thread I love this competition. Here's hoping next year's will have a vette and m3

New Vette vs new M3 next year will be great

[TSM330i]

In regards to the GT-R being too "computerish."

I've had the opportunity to drive a 2009 and a 2014 (both premium models - owned by the same guy). He owned the 2009 from new in late 2008 and drove it for 36,000 miles and never had an issue. It was completely stock and driven everyday in all kinds of weather (in Pennsylvania).

Yes, for sure, the 2009 seemed to be very computerish and I could definitely feel the computer trying to work out the best way around the corner. It literally felt like the front end was trying its hardest to pull me around the corner. The ride was super stiff. The transmission was not smooth at all except in R mode. Then it was great. The engine was like an electric motor - instant response and pulled very hard to redline.

The 2014 is a very different car. It feels much more organic and natural - by any standard - not just in comparison to the 2009. The ride was much better and more controlled. The steering feel was better and the interface with the driver was better. Handling was so much more natural. In tight turns - it actually oversteered a bit to bring the back end around! It felt so controlled and really well mannered. The transmission felt better in any mode. This engine is a step up as well. It crushes first gear so quickly that you almost always bump the rev limiter. Again, like an electric motor for sure.
All in all, the 2014 car is much more polished and refined, including the materials used on the interior. It didn't feel like a 3900lb car for sure. Nissan has made a true supercar for $100K (wow - I never thought I'd say that because I still don't really like the looks).

[Wolfinwolfsclothing]

We all know its going to be the 911 or Cayman S.

[300hp]

Results are in

[Wolfinwolfsclothing]

Originally Posted by 300hp

Results are in

Just as I said above, there was no chance it wouldnt be the 911 or Cayman S.

And the funny thing is, it isnt even a RWD or special 911 model (aka GTx). But again, Porsche spanks the competition when it comes to handling, feel and precision...and thats not even getting into how great of a performance car it is and the other intangibles it offers in spades.

[300hp]

Originally Posted by Wolfinwolfsclothing

Just as I said above, there was no chance it wouldnt be the 911 or Cayman S.

And the funny thing is, it isnt even a RWD or special 911 model (aka GTx). But again, Porsche spanks the competition when it comes to handling, feel and precision...and thats not even getting into how great of a performance car it is and the other intangibles it offers in spades.

I thought the SLS would win, I have not yet read the article but still a great finish for the SLS. Fastest car around the track while weighing 3700lbs with no awd aids.

Porsche 911 is a good choice too

[Billup]

911 is and always will be my favorite car. Granted it would be nice to ride around town in an R8, that 4s makes my panties wet.

[NoMore335]

Originally Posted by TSM330i

In regards to the GT-R being too "computerish."

I've had the opportunity to drive a 2009 and a 2014 (both premium models - owned by the same guy). He owned the 2009 from new in late 2008 and drove it for 36,000 miles and never had an issue. It was completely stock and driven everyday in all kinds of weather (in Pennsylvania).

Yes, for sure, the 2009 seemed to be very computerish and I could definitely feel the computer trying to work out the best way around the corner. It literally felt like the front end was trying its hardest to pull me around the corner. The ride was super stiff. The transmission was not smooth at all except in R mode. Then it was great. The engine was like an electric motor - instant response and pulled very hard to redline.

The 2014 is a very different car. It feels much more organic and natural - by any standard - not just in comparison to the 2009. The ride was much better and more controlled. The steering feel was better and the interface with the driver was better. Handling was so much more natural. In tight turns - it actually oversteered a bit to bring the back end around! It felt so controlled and really well mannered. The transmission felt better in any mode. This engine is a step up as well. It crushes first gear so quickly that you almost always bump the rev limiter. Again, like an electric motor for sure.
All in all, the 2014 car is much more polished and refined, including the materials used on the interior. It didn't feel like a 3900lb car for sure. Nissan has made a true supercar for $100K (wow - I never thought I'd say that because I still don't really like the looks).

This wouldn't happen to be that black GT-R in Southampton, would it? I used to live up there & saw that car almost every morning on my way to work.

[Wolfinwolfsclothing]

Originally Posted by 300hp

I thought the SLS would win, I have not yet read the article but still a great finish for the SLS. Fastest car around the track while weighing 3700lbs with no awd aids.

Porsche 911 is a good choice too

In all fairness, the C4S weighs about 3400 lbs and only has 400 hp. The SLS has a huge power advantage though so I would expect a 622 hp 3700 lbs car to be faster than a 400 hp 3400 lbs car. Has it been the new GT3, it would have likely easily surpassed the SLS for time and the 4S for best driver's car. I predict the 991 GT3 will be next years winner.
SLS is a great car nonetheless.

[300hp]

Originally Posted by Wolfinwolfsclothing

In all fairness, the C4S weighs about 3400 lbs and only has 400 hp. The SLS has a huge power advantage though so I would expect a 622 hp 3700 lbs car to be faster than a 400 hp 3400 lbs car. Has it been the new GT3, it would have likely easily surpassed the SLS for time and the 4S for best driver's car. I predict the 991 GT3 will be next years winner.
SLS is a great car nonetheless.

That's true, given the power advantage it should come as no surprise the SLS was faster than the 4s.

I am just a little surprised the SLS conquered the GTR, for the second time now.

Even Randy said he just wanted to keep driving the 4s, that's the only car he had something like that to say. If only I could afford it

[gonzo]

You could listen to his comments in every car and get where this "award" was probably going.
Each car is unique in their own way.

Porches haters should be showing up any minute now.
The 991 just has that incredible whirring sound.

[TSM330i]

Originally Posted by NoMore335

This wouldn't happen to be that black GT-R in Southampton, would it? I used to live up there & saw that car almost every morning on my way to work.

No LOL! Both of his cars are Super Silver. He lives about 15 minutes North of Horsham.

[F30 Epal]

BMW's illustrious M division built its name on cars that were light, nimble, communicative, and begging to be driven as hard as possible. The M6 is the antithesis of that ethos.

Love this quote about the M6.

As for the cars in this competition, give me either the Jaguar F-Type V6 S, Audi R8 V10+ or the Carrera 4S

[300hp]

Why are people still voting, it's over the 911 won

[Sniz]

not shocked on the M6 comments, its huge.