Burnout with traction off

[Dakar Bam]

Good day eveyone
When I put traction off and floor it with my DCT the car spins for a bit and then upshifts to 2nd killing the burnout. However with traction off in s mode with the gear shifter on maximum the car will do a burnout as usual. Is this common on all dct m3s.
I would assume the car supposed to car spin all the way until the car gets traction in auto mode with traction off

[Helmsman]

Maybe missunderstand the question but if in D mode yes it (should) shift regardless burnout or not.

[Dakar Bam]

Originally Posted by Helmsman

Maybe missunderstand the question but if in D mode yes it (should) shift regardless burnout or not.

yes but the car does not even spin very long. it barely starts spinning then it upshifts. in s mode if I floor it it spins proper then I must upshift to spin into 2nd that is normal yes but in d mode the car doesnt seem to wanna spin all the way through 1st gear

[///M Power-Belgium]

Hope this will help with your burnout ...

[cjm41]

Originally Posted by Dakar Bam

yes but the car does not even spin very long. it barely starts spinning then it upshifts. in s mode if I floor it it spins proper then I must upshift to spin into 2nd that is normal yes but in d mode the car doesnt seem to wanna spin all the way through 1st gear

The car wasn't designed to do burnouts. The back tires breaking loose is an engineering flaw (maybe not a flaw, but too much power for the setup). Traction is the goal, not the other way around. This was taken into consideration with everything from the engine's torque curve to the suspension to the gearing.

Now... you're saying you can spin in S mode but not in D.

This seems unlikely and you'd have to consider variables like surface material, surface temperature, tire temperature, air temperature, etc, between your S mode and D mode attempts at spinning the tires. Just because you can spin your tires on one street doesn't mean you will on the next street over, or the next day when it's 15 degrees warmer outside when you're dealing with a car that was designed to stay planted to the road and ultimately not break loose.

[Dakar Bam]

Originally Posted by cjm41

The car wasn't designed to do burnouts. The back tires breaking loose is an engineering flaw (maybe not a flaw, but too much power for the setup). Traction is the goal, not the other way around. This was taken into consideration with everything from the engine's torque curve to the suspension to the gearing.

Now... you're saying you can spin in S mode but not in D.

This seems unlikely and you'd have to consider variables like surface material, surface temperature, tire temperature, air temperature, etc, between your S mode and D mode attempts at spinning the tires. Just because you can spin your tires on one street doesn't mean you will on the next street over, or the next day when it's 15 degrees warmer outside when you're dealing with a car that was designed to stay planted to the road and ultimately not break loose.

yes definitely understand the dct is meant to go straight but it just seems odd in d mode traction traction off and flooring it wont snake the car? a get a a slight tyre slip and upshifts to and normally on any other car it would spin for a while then upshift into 2nd and continue spinning

[fatalelement]

I'm assuming because D mode isn't really a mode for "performance" driving, since it will freely upshift long before most manual drivers would if you aren't on the throttle hard (depending on the setting), it's the computer detecting the current gear is clearly not optimal for driving conditions and upshifting. It's why you start in second sometimes when it's icy out (many automatics actually start in second) - to prevent this exact thing from happening. It's a feature.

If you're trying to get wheelspin, etc, being in D seems a bit silly.

[Dakar Bam]

Originally Posted by fatalelement

I'm assuming because D mode isn't really a mode for "performance" driving, since it will freely upshift long before most manual drivers would if you aren't on the throttle hard (depending on the setting), it's the computer detecting the current gear is clearly not optimal for driving conditions and upshifting. It's why you start in second sometimes when it's icy out (many automatics actually start in second) - to prevent this exact thing from happening. It's a feature.

If you're trying to get wheelspin, etc, being in D seems a bit silly.

that actually makes sense.Thank you.

[scrammer]

Originally Posted by Dakar Bam

yes but the car does not even spin very long. it barely starts spinning then it upshifts. in s mode if I floor it it spins proper then I must upshift to spin into 2nd that is normal yes but in d mode the car doesnt seem to wanna spin all the way through 1st gear

I am sure you can get a great deal on a Mustang at the local Ford dealer ...

[Dakar Bam]

Originally Posted by scrammer

I am sure you can get a great deal on a Mustang at the local Ford dealer ...

lol oh come on. who does not like a good burnout.

[cjm41]

Originally Posted by Dakar Bam

lol oh come on. who does not like a good burnout.

Everyone does. That's what rental cars are for. I'd rather the race car I own be crazy glued to the pavement

[DukeofAlexandria]

Originally Posted by cjm41

Everyone does. That's what rental cars are for. I'd rather the race car I own be crazy glued to the pavement

Yeah, have to agree here. I'd rather not have the tires break lose when driving regardless of how 'cool' it sounds/looks/whatever.

I get it, a fun burnout is fun, but throw some slicks on it or some balding tires if you really want to do that.

[Mvy]

I just spent 900 getting rear tires installed and aligned. I don't think any burn outs in my car are in the future for me;-)

[Pro-AM3]

if you want to do a proper burnout, get a line-loc. its maybe $150 and you can shred your tires easily everytime w/o EXTRA stress on the trans