Gintani E85 TUNE

[igM3NACER]

So guys, quite the experience i been having. So i been running Gintani's 91 tune for over a year and nothing but smiles and laughs. Then i was itching to try e85.. and was gonna buy a AFD flex fuel kit but gintani convinced me it was perfectly safe and cheaper to just run they're e85 tune, stock everything. So i did, the cranks in the morning on e85 were looooong.... but would always start. Now that im trying to go back to 91 i left about 4 miles left and refilled completely on 91 and flashed on the 91 tune and currently on the pump trying to turn the car on and boom. Wont even turn on now.. n it when it does it sounds like its a cammed car with the worst idle ever. N eventually just dies. I messaged gintani for help on IG and they left me on read, with no response. I called n left voicemails.. no response...If anyone can help or has experienced this and can help it would be appreciated.

[sdbmwcoding]

You don't need to get it towed, let the car idle for 5 minutes. There is still E85 in the lines that's why it's going into limp mode on the 91 tune. Takes some time for the 91 to flow in. First time I went back from E85 to 91 on gintani tune same thing happened, restarted the car 3-4 times instant limp mode. Freaked me out but I let it idle for a bit and limp mode went away after 5 minutes. Just restart it a few times and let it sit. I contacted gintani as well and they say it's normal to experience that when going from E85 to 91

[igM3NACER]

Originally Posted by socalcoding

You don't need to get it towed, let the car idle for 5 minutes. There is still E85 in the lines that's why it's going into limp mode on the 91 tune. Takes some time for the 91 to flow in. First time I went back from E85 to 91 on gintani tune same thing happened, restarted the car 3-4 times instant limp mode. Freaked me out but I let it idle for a bit and limp mode went away after 5 minutes. Just restart it a few times and let it sit. I contacted gintani as well and they say it's normal to experience that when going from E85 to 91

My car wouldn't even idle tho, it would turn on and idle for like 10 secs and then instantly turn off. Now my battery is dead, n waiting on a tow.

[sdbmwcoding]

Originally Posted by igM3NACER

My car wouldn't even idle tho, it would turn on and idle for like 10 secs and then instantly turn off. Now my battery is dead, n waiting on a tow.

You need to continuously turn it on until it keeps idle. Mine did the same thing, unfortunately with the battery dead now can't do much. After you get it to turn on reset adaptation in gintani software, always recommended when switching tunes

[igM3NACER]

Reset adaption? U mean like clear codes?

[igM3NACER]

Waiting to get towed

[sdbmwcoding]

Originally Posted by igM3NACER

Reset adaption? U mean like clear codes?

No, in gintani bitflash > diagnostics there is a button that says reset/clear adaptations. It resets certain engine adaptations that's recommended after switching tunes

[igM3NACER]

Originally Posted by socalcoding

No, in gintani bitflash > diagnostics there is a button that says reset/clear adaptations. It resets certain engine adaptations that's recommended after switching tunes

Will give that a try. Appreciate the help. Worst comes to worst might need to get all the fuel drained... or idk man this is so frustrating

[sdbmwcoding]

Originally Posted by igM3NACER

Will give that a try. Appreciate the help. Worst comes to worst might need to get all the fuel drained... or idk man this is so frustrating

It'll eventually keep idle, just needs to get the 91 flowing through the lines. I understand the struggle though, few days ago I went to the E85 pump, filled up half a tank of E85 and brought out my laptop to tune at the station and the software is expired. I guess gintani doesn't send automated emails with new software version lol so I sat there for an hour trying to contact gintani with only their Instagram answering saying they couldn't do anything until the weekday (it was a weekend evening so I understand) so I ended up having to fill up half 91 resulting in an e50 mix and drive home. The guy from gintani mentioned it is safe to run E85 in the tank without the tune as long as you are in low rpm ranges but decided to fill up with as much 91 as I could.

[igM3NACER]

Now it turned on and is idling but getting this code... n wont go into gear. Anyone experience this?

[Adriano917]

I’ve never had an issue with my AFD flex fuel kit, should of gone that route.

[sdbmwcoding]

Originally Posted by igM3NACER

Now it turned on and is idling but getting this code... n wont go into gear. Anyone experience this?

Most likely battery related since your battery died prior. Let the car idle for 10-15 minutes then restart it a few times.

[amrazM]

Can’t talk bad about gintani or you will be stoned to death

[EricSMG]

Question - in the real world, how "big" of a difference does the E85/tune make with no other changes? Particularly in the midrange, 4-6k rpm?

[pbonsalb]

You should not get detonation related timing drop like you can with 91 and probably even 93, should be able to add about 5 degrees of timing, and the oxygenated fuel will also add power. Could be 2% power gain from just the E85 alone like with an AFD or similar flex fuel kit versus maybe 4% gain with E85 and an E85 tune that adds timing, over a 91 or 93 tune. Not big power but the incremental gains add up.