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i kinda agree with this, although it would be AMAZING to see the new m3 hit 60 in around 3.9. but then what would be the point in buying a huge 5.0 V10 M6 if you can get better acceleration from a cheaper m3, with 4.0 V8...? Im more sure it will hit 60 4.5 seconds or under... |
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now that extra power + weight savings translates to this change in 0-60 time: stock M3 : 5.1secs M3 CSL : 4.8 seconds QUOTE] stock m3=4.8 CSL=4.6 |
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www.mustang.com or www.nhra.com for the official BMW 0-60/ & 1/4 mile times
More important is the whole package. For example, if you look at Nurburgring lap times for the McLaren SLR you will see 7:52, and 7:50 for the CSL M3. On paper the SLR wins hands down, until you drive it. The CSL owns the skid pad. 1.4g That is the figure that blows away the competition. Add the V8 into the equation and you have a car that is close "on paper" to the famed GTR. |
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right now im thinking 4.4-4.5, i duno but check this new topic i started...Veyrons rule as fastest car is over !!!...Brabus TKR...new fastest car...0-60 in 1.67 !
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...d=1#post370299 |
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Personally, I would be shocked if they didn't get less than 4.5 seconds. Like others have said, it shouldn't matter if it is faster than the M5, because its suppose to be a different type of drive. I've always imagined the M5 to be the classy higher end type of car ... not really intended for all out speed, but rather prestige and still maintain some power. The M3 always gives me this mental image of a (comfortable) daily driven sports car. The people who get it want a fast car, and are willing to sacrifice some comfort for it... but they still want some comfort (or else, they'd get a corvette).
Think about it. This new M3 shouldn't be much heavier than the current one (it may even be lighter) ... so a minimum of a 20% increase in horsepower (400/333 = ~1.20) should mean that 4.5 seconds wouldn't be far off at all. I couldn't imagine the car with 20% higher horsepower getting less than a mere .3 seconds or so faster when it is currently going close to 5 seconds (AFAIK, BMW advertises the current M3 as 4.8 seconds). Now if it was currently going under 4 seconds, that would be understandable. The under 4 second times are usually much harder to push down (due to excessive wheel spin and the fact that even under perfect grip, the difficulty to decrease 0-60 times increases exponentially) Also, just for fun, I looked up a 0-60 calculator. I know, I know, this isn't exactly proof that it will be under 4.5 seconds (it most definitely should be taken with a grain of salt...) but it agrees with me somewhat. http://www.gldomain.com/accelerationcalc/ Entering the stats of a 335i Coupe (3550 lbs, 300hp) yielded ~5.33 seconds ... entering the stats of the current M3 coupe (3400, 333hp) yielded ~4.77 seconds ... entering the conservative stats of the next M3 (3550 lbs ... which assumes it will lose NO weight compared to the current 335i, 400hp which we know they say at least 400 hp) yields ~4.30 seconds. Again it must be taken with a grain of salt, but it seems plausable for a sub 4.5 second 0-60 time. |
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Averaging out all the different m5 0-60's it comes down to 4.5 for the new m5, so my guess will have to be 4.6-4.7, the RS4 is at 4.8 so they will surely beat that. I don't know why someone would buy an RS4 for 70k+ when the m3 comin' out will be much cheaper and will look/sound/drive better than the RS4...
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i wonder if somebody knows the meaning of oxymoron......
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I read the same article in C&D. If the 335i with 300hp can do 0-60 in 4.9 seconds, the new M3 with 400+hp should do 0-60 in the very low 4's (very low - i.e. 4.1/4.2), even if the M3 weighs 300-400 pounds more than the 335i (which I doubt).
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Amazing all this talk of 0-60 in mid to low 4 seconds. Superdupercar territory just a few years ago. Gotta love the power of engineering and necessity of staying ahead in the neverending horsepower war.
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10-30-2006, 10:42 PM | #60 |
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4.5 seconds is what the new E92 M3 will do 0-62mph. A fact from BMW AG. 0-100 mph should be little less than the M6 also, but after 100mph, the M6 is supposed to be able to catch up (straight line accel.)
Vmax will be around 320km/h without a limiter, depending on what kind of final gear ratio they will settle on. Of couse it'll be limited to 250km/h from the factory. Best regards, Jussi |
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I think BMW will be among the last German manufacturers to break that "pact", because they don't need to prove anything by removing the limiters. Everyone knows their cars will beat the *$/? out of anybody elses if the limiters are off, so they have nothing to prove. More desperate manufacturers on the other hand have started taking the limiters off or making them higher to gain silly press attention or stupid buyers.
If you want the limiter off, it's such a simple ECU change and if you do it at Hartge or Hamann you won't even expire your warranty, so it's not a big deal. Most of the German Autobahn is pretty good, but still there are very long stretches where 250 is pretty much realistically your top speed unless you have a serious death wish. And there are sections where even 250 is way too much. Best regards, Jussi |
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250kmh Is perfectly fine still. I think that It should be there to limit the idiots that just come off the street and buy a car, just to go 200mph. The majority of the people don't appreciate nor respect the power of the cars and are likely to kill themselves and others.
I think that if somebody has that much passion for going fast, they can shell out the cash to Hartge or Hamann to de-limit it. |
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I'm predicting RS4 times under controlled circumstances, but the average Joe will lose to the RS4 in the stoplight wars every time. Roll-ons should favor the M3.
0-60 in the mid 4's 1/4 mile in high 12's |
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